From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cursor-intangible and rear-nonsticky t Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 17:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <11A4C2D3-101E-4121-8DFD-D6451B28C8F1@gmail.com> <88226B26-38AF-4B02-9E5E-A333AC8E2CC4@gmail.com> <30A8CCBF-C1E0-46F5-A07A-4A4169406C8A@gmail.com> <7B0DBF5E-5D4E-4A27-9DEB-E818EC2733B9@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2548"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: JD Smith Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 05 23:32:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lTWpg-0000X5-00 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 23:32:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47522 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lTWpf-0004Ft-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 17:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lTWoI-0003n3-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 17:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lTWoG-0002C9-Q0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 17:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 771FC8089E; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0F1D680055; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:30:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1617658258; bh=WPxd1mESfV1HeHZwtWFQqjeXKaE5go7Tpx7LsfDL5vg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=b0cQKscilRGMXj+gVbMBKMWEivmg93FHXfH68A4W3GtxOFODivm7JtIdADLXsAoMQ 0/d/FrMeaOeXnx1HILY1Mm2DyR/lIBLFbkS6VHYfAfDCvLSiZJtnmNparS3jJZAcT/ EWKiTKmrNbi+b6sglVSmGTc4P/wM6Q3qCeZxZcYHo0HFpxNF9FNPahugaHF2m5Jh+X 66K5beLL7M5Um5psVcrcPwStWh9r+X5mFwYBuC87DEo9zJUnroFGhxvpxNa9i6ckjD XeRymc543t6bQWmA87Wxh4LR8v1t6bdWiXDtRaOtIOMrq1OlC9V4i8sE9FFQLXzQA0 3LROAzQOmlrSQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (104-222-126-84.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.222.126.84]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E2A31201FF; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:30:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <7B0DBF5E-5D4E-4A27-9DEB-E818EC2733B9@gmail.com> (JD Smith's message of "Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:11:26 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267441 Archived-At: >> The problem above is easy to workaround until the problem is fixed >> upstream > Yes a simple =E2=80=98(cursor-intangible t rear-nonsticky nil) seems to d= o it.=20 You might want to be more considerate of comint and preserve the nonstickiness behavior for the properties that it places, e.g. something like: (cursor-intangible t rear-nonsticky (field read-only inhibit-line-move-= field-capture)) [ This value of `rear-nonsticky` is the I used in the patch I just installed into `master`. ] >> I'd tend to suspect an interaction with some wild-west >> package doing dangerous things) > Your suspicions are well-calibrated. I haven=E2=80=99t yet figured out t= he culprit, > but it was a package interaction issue. Even if it doesn't end up with a bug report in Emacs, I'd be interested to know what was the culprit and how it ended up behaving that way. Stefan