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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package-update-all from command line
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 09:54:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvee0joxko.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877d6bd2a2.fsf@gnu.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Mon, 23 May 2022 23:42:45 -0400")

> I would like to be able to update packages from the command line, and
> thanks to Lars, I now can do
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> emacs -batch -funcall package-initialize -load ~/.emacs.elc -funcall package-update-all
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

`package-initialize` should basically never be needed any more (other
than internally within `package.el`).  `package-activate-all` should
be sufficient.
If not, report it as a bug.

> Alas, this has two problems:
>
> 1. It prints "No packages to update" even though M-x list-packages RET
> reports "Packages that can be upgraded: 3; type ‘U’ to mark for upgrading".

I'll let the author of `package-update-all` deal with this part :-)

> 2. Loading ~/.emacs.elc is relatively slow (e.g., because it fetches a
> remote `remember-data-file'). so I would rather use something smaller.

If it hurts don't do that: e.g., only fetch that remote file
if (not noninteractive) or something like that.

> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> emacs -batch -load package -load ~/.config/emacs/package-quickstart.elc \

The above 2 steps should be subsumed by calling `package-activate-all`

>   -eval '(setq package-selected-packages (delete-dups package-activated-list))' \

Hmm... I wonder why you needed that.

>   -eval '(push (quote ("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) package-archives)' \

This one basically plays the role of a stripped down version of your `.emacs`.

> E.g., I would like to save `package-archives' in
> `package-quickstart-file' so that I won't have to specify it on the
> command line (it is set in ~/.emacs, of course).

I can't think of a way to do that in a way that's reliable for all the
various ways this var can be set.  :-(

I have wished for there to be a init file that's loaded in
batch sessions.  Sometimes I feel like `early-init.el` could
be this file; i.e. load it when in `--batch` as well.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-24 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-24  3:42 package-update-all from command line Sam Steingold
2022-05-24 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-05-24 14:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 16:00     ` Loading early-init.el in batch mode (was: package-update-all from command line) Stefan Monnier
2022-05-24 18:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 15:04   ` package-update-all from command line Sam Steingold
2022-05-24 15:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-24 19:01       ` Sam Steingold
2022-05-24 19:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-25 15:14           ` Sam Steingold
2022-05-25 16:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-26 15:13               ` Sam Steingold
2022-05-26 15:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-25  1:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-25  4:58   ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-25 12:05     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-25 12:27       ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-27 10:21         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-27 20:33           ` Tassilo Horn

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