From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87lkb4t3wv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190145778 30230 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2007 20:02:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 22:02:55 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXjHW-00068d-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:02:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXjHV-00021Z-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXjHS-0001yt-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXjHQ-0001xB-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXjHQ-0001wp-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:44 -0400 Original-Received: from x-132-204-253-66.xtpr.umontreal.ca ([132.204.253.66] helo=ceviche.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXjHK-0005oD-Fd; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:38 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0CE4BB4127; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lkb4t3wv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Tue\, 18 Sep 2007 17\:00\:00 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79220 Archived-At: > I still don't see why we cannot simply output a (possibly rather > verbose) message in the echo area when emacs is started with a file > name arg. I'd be willing to live with a split screen: - without any option, show the full startup screen, of course: there's no disagreement on this, AFAIK. - with a file option (or some other related option such as "-f gnus"), do show the file, but show also an extra startup screen in a separate window. Since the normal startup screen takes up too much space for this use, we'd need a shorter version of the startup screen with a button that you click to say "show me the full screen". It's a lot more obstructive than the echo-area version, so Richard would probably prefer it (I'd prefer the echo-area version). Stefan