From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug tracker choices for Emacs. Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ws5ij2rw.fsf@canonical.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249575572 6723 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2009 16:19:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 06 18:19:25 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MZ5gb-0004rs-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:19:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55661 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MZ5ga-0004D2-UN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MZ5gV-0004Al-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MZ5gQ-0003xZ-Q2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41835 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MZ5gQ-0003xB-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:14 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:39252) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ5gQ-0007bE-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:14 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar4EABefekpFxL8W/2dsb2JhbACBUtBhhBgFgjSEfw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,334,1246852800"; d="scan'208";a="43104459" Original-Received: from 69-196-191-22.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.191.22]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2009 12:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C189E7F4F; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:19:12 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ws5ij2rw.fsf@canonical.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:36:03 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113740 Archived-At: > It can be completely operated by email: > https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface Can we make bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org redirect to it (i.e. accept email submissions from any random user without prior registration, which is *very* important). Can we install it in debbugs.gnu.org? Can it be operated from Rmail (i.e. MUAs without support for GPG signing)? > - Not really operable via the web -- just read-only operations. > This is huge. This is not huge for me, but it's clearly a shortcoming. > - Does not do automatic duplicate-finding when a new bug is submitted. > Launchpad bugs does, and it's a real gift. (Actually, from reading > the documentation, it's not clear to me how to handle duplicates in > debbugs at all -- there doesn't seem to be a simple way to say > "Close bug #Y because it's a duplicate of #X". And the mere fact > that one has to read the documentation is already a disadvantage.) It's called "merge". It's worked OK for me. > - Interface can be a bit unintuitive ("Toggle useless messages", for > example; or consider the number of choices one must make before > doing a simple search). > - A bit Debian-centric. See the long list of checkboxes for > distributions in the search form on the front page, for example. You mean the Web interface? Yes, the web interface is not great. > When we chose debbugs, it was effectively the only choice we had. It > certainly gets the job done. But I'd like to know if anyone else is > tempted by the thought of switching our bug tracking to Launchpad. I'm not married to debbugs. Launchpad's web interface is clearly more pleasant, so if the other criterias are fulfilled, we could switch. Stefan