From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 'Ted Zlatanov' <tzz@lifelogs.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: highlighting non-ASCII characters
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:45:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd3yu7dps.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6932BBFEB09A4BA09156ED7F598569CE@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:53:17 -0700")
>> > In my case, I customize `escape-glyph' to be something very
>> > noticeable (orange background, with blue foreground and
>> > 1-pixel blue box). I want to see something like ^G really
>> > stand out. I don't want to see
>> > non-ascii chars handled the same way.
>> Actually, in the original case (a weird non-ASCII K in the middle of
>> ASCII text), I would want it to stand out. The problem there
>> is how to define "weird".
> Whether you want non-ASCII chars to also stand out is a separate
> question. My point is that I don't want to see them handled _the same
> way_ as ^G et compagnie.
What I'm saying is that there are two issues: non-ASCII chars in general
(which I personally don't want to display in any special manner:
they're just as normal as ASCII chars), and then there are "chars that
are out of place or that may not be what they look like", such as the
weird "K" in the other message's "OK" (which to me, is similar to the
NBSP char in that it is meant to be displayed in the same way as some
other char, so we want to call the attention of the user to the
difference).
> Having separate faces lets users get the behavior they want. If you
> then want to customize the two faces to look the same, no problem.
I don't insist on using escape-glyph for those chars, indeed (I don't
really care which face is used for them). What I care about is figuring
out how to define programmatically "chars that are out of place or that
may not be what they look like".
Stefan
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2010-03-18 19:11 Translation of http status code to text Lennart Borgman
2010-03-22 1:19 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 13:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 14:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 17:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 17:55 ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-22 19:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 20:32 ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-22 21:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 9:55 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 13:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 14:26 ` face for non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http status code to text) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 16:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 18:18 ` face for non-ASCII characters Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 22:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 23:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 0:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 9:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 15:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 15:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:27 ` Drew Adams
2011-04-16 16:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 17:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-18 15:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-18 15:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-18 16:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-18 17:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-19 13:07 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-19 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-20 14:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-20 21:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 17:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 18:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 19:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 20:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 20:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 20:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 21:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-22 12:20 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 12:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-22 13:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-23 0:50 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-23 7:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-25 17:54 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-26 18:26 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-26 19:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26 20:29 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-27 3:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-27 4:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-02 18:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-03 14:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-04 14:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-27 12:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 14:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-22 17:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 3:14 ` package management proposals for Emacs (was: face for non-ASCII characters) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26 8:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 21:46 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-27 1:19 ` package management proposals for Emacs Stefan Monnier
2011-04-27 3:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-27 21:14 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-26 3:09 ` markchars.el 0.2.0 and idn.el (was: face for non-ASCII characters) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26 8:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 15:28 ` idn.el and confusables.txt (was: markchars.el 0.2.0 and idn.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-13 19:42 ` idn.el and confusables.txt Stefan Monnier
2011-05-13 20:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 8:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-14 9:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 13:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 15:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 17:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 20:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-15 1:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-15 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-15 12:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-16 18:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-17 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-17 15:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 18:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-15 13:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-05-15 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-18 5:23 ` handa
2011-05-18 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-18 7:59 ` handa
2011-05-18 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-17 8:15 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-17 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 2:07 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 2:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 3:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 6:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 7:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 8:02 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 10:30 ` bidi at startup (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 15:12 ` bidi at startup Stefan Monnier
2011-06-21 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-07 6:10 ` C interface to Unicode character property char-tables Kenichi Handa
2011-08-06 16:52 ` Using uniprop_table_lookup (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 0:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-09 1:32 ` Using uniprop_table_lookup Stefan Monnier
2011-08-09 4:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-15 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31 10:42 ` uni-confusables 0.1 is on the Emacs ELPA branch (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-08 10:42 ` uni-confusables 0.1 is on the Emacs ELPA branch Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-08 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-16 16:00 ` face for non-ASCII characters Drew Adams
2010-03-23 19:40 ` Florian Beck
2010-03-23 14:35 ` Translation of http status code to text Miles Bader
2010-03-23 14:22 ` highlighting non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http status code to text) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 16:50 ` highlighting non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http statuscode " Drew Adams
2010-03-23 21:49 ` highlighting non-ASCII characters Stefan Monnier
2010-03-23 21:53 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-24 0:45 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-03-24 1:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 2:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-24 5:14 ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-24 13:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 15:06 ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-24 19:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 16:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-24 19:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 17:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 20:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 22:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-29 18:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 18:48 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-29 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 20:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 13:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 21:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 21:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-29 21:32 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-30 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-30 14:04 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-30 14:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 14:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-30 16:18 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-30 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 7:11 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 14:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 17:32 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-26 0:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 13:38 ` Stephen Berman
2010-03-26 22:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 7:12 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-24 2:09 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-24 5:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-24 9:28 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-24 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 9:27 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 18:41 ` Translation of http status code to text Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 19:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 9:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 10:54 ` joakim
2010-03-23 15:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 3:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 17:35 ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-24 19:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-25 1:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 12:57 ` Stefan Monnier
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