From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sweeter Emacs Lisp Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8738rh6ftk.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqor45he.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373965707 26240 80.91.229.3 (16 Jul 2013 09:08:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fgallina@gnu.org, emacs-devel To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 16 11:08:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz1F6-0005Ew-9X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43004 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz1F5-0003zl-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz1Ey-0003xt-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz1Et-0000VA-T7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:08:12 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:32791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz1El-0000Sq-SZ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:07:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r6G97u3x008276; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:07:57 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 39AC1AE2D2; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:07:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wqor45he.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:13:17 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4640=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4640> : streams <1001265> : uri <1478055> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161920 Archived-At: >> + *we need a built-in core mapcan (could be called mapcat), filter and >> sequence concatenation (could be called cat?) function that doesn't >> depends on cl-lib*. This is fundamental stuff isn't it? Why is such a >> need to require a library for it? > Yes, it's completely silly that there's no core mapcan... You can (require 'cl-lib) to get it. It still can't be used in pre-loaded code, but that's the only restriction, Stefan