From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.tramp Subject: Re: URL-like Tramp syntax Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a9jvz5b2.fsf@gmx.de> <5226075D.8050500@lanl.gov> <87eh95f1w3.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378296477 20179 80.91.229.3 (4 Sep 2013 12:07:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 12:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tramp-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 04 14:07:56 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VHBsJ-0006Qa-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 14:07:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52503 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHBsI-0004av-Gy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39225) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHBs8-0004aO-SK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHBs1-0006DI-IE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:1304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VHBs1-0006CA-DY; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KK6/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KK6/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="26400212" Original-Received: from 206-248-162-186.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.162.186]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Sep 2013 08:04:35 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C037762D9B; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:07:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87eh95f1w3.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:05:00 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163183 gmane.emacs.tramp:8402 Archived-At: >> You've written recently about the inherent ambiguities of Tramp file >> name syntax. Is the URL syntax (or, for that matter, the third syntax) >> less problematic in this regard? It might be better to switch to it >> than away from it... The ambiguities are only in the added shorthands, so they can be resolved trivially (as we did) by disallowing some shorthands. > I don't believe this is preferred. Tramp's URL-like syntax competes with > url-handlers.el. This is another reason I believe we should remove it > from Tramp. Indeed. > If we want to solve the ambiguities in Tramp's primary syntax, we should > change the separator between methods and user/host names. I think the problem is minor enough not to justify such a change. Stefan