From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Kelly Dean <kelly@prtime.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:58:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd25fdjh4.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fnnc8lOjrDN9KDM6Z27odWFxaub5dcZS6ZBYMcgtPbx@local> (Kelly Dean's message of "Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:24:51 +0000")
>> No, the idea was rather to do:
>>
>> (defun set-internal-1 (args)
>> (block nil ; Because Elisp isn't CL
>> (if (constant-or-hooked-p)
>> (if (constant-p)
>> (if (forbidden-p)
>> (error "setting constant")
>> (return))
>> (funcall symbol-watch-function ..args..))
>> (do-some-stuff)
>> (and-many-more-lines-of-stuff)
>> (set-some-variable))))
> Then the many more lines of stuff have to be copied into
> symbol-watch-function. Those lines can't just be skipped;
We don't really need to copy those lines, instead symbol-watch-function
should somehow (in the "normal" case) call us back, and in way that
doesn't trigger the (constant-or-hooked-p) check.
Of course, for that "...args..." should have enough info that we can
indeed "call it back" properly.
> By default, hooking a symbol must not change the behavior of Emacs,
> except for slowing it down. A hook handler can optionally change the
> behavior, but just hooking the symbol must cause no change if the
> handler doesn't.
Agreed.
> Updated patches attached. The first applies to 24.4.
We don't want to install this in emacs-24, so only the trunk (aka
"master") code is important in this respect.
[ BTW, even for 30KB patches, I prefer them uncompressed, because
I typically read them directly in Gnus. ]
> + /* When masked with SYMBOL_CONSTANT_MASK, non-zero means symbol is
> + constant, i.e. changing its value should signal an error. If the
> + value is 3, then the var can be changed, but only by `defconst'.
> + When masked with SYMBOL_HOOKED_MASK, non-zero means setting
> + symbol will run varhook. These two fields are combined into one
> + in order to optimize the fast path of unhooked non-constants by
> + having only one conditional branch for that case. */
We don't need this special value 3 for defconst, not only because the
code doesn't use it, but also since if we want that unimplemented
functionality, we can now implement it using your new
symbol-setter system.
> +typedef enum
> + {
> + Dyn_Unbind = -1,
> + Dyn_Current = 0,
> + Dyn_Bind = 1,
> + Dyn_Skip = 2,
> + Dyn_Global = 3
> + } Dyn_Bind_Direction;
In which sense is this a "direction"?
> +/* Like set_internal but with direction argument to indicate whether this
> + function call is due to a binding (1), an unbinding (-1), or neither (0).
> + As special cases, a value of 2 is a flag to disable run_varhook so that
> + varhooks aren't run during backtraces, and a value of 3 is a flag
> + indicating that this function call is due to set_default, which allows
> + run_varhook to distinguish beween the global and the dyn-local binding. */
Please use the Dyn_* names rather than the numerical constants in
the comment.
> + Return the result of symbol-setter-function. The variable will be set
> + (by code that calls run_varhook) to that result, overriding the value to
> + which the setter is attempting to set the variable. */
That's a good idea, to circumvent the question of how to not-trigger the
hooked-p check recursively when the hook function calls the setter (tho
the question partly remains, in case the hook function *accidentally*
sets one of the hooked variables).
It does mean that the hooks can't redirect the assignment elsewhere, but
maybe it's a good thing anyway.
> + bool shadowed;
> + if (buf_local)
> + shadowed = let_shadows_buffer_binding_p (sym);
> + else shadowed = let_shadows_global_binding_p (symbol);
Aka
bool shadowed = (buf_local ? let_shadows_buffer_binding_p (sym)
: let_shadows_global_binding_p (symbol));
> + if (shadowed) env = Qdyn_local;
> + else if (buf_local) env = Qbuf_local;
> + else env = Qglobal;
Why does the hook need to know about those different cases?
> + start: /* Just to avoid reindentation in the varhook patch */
"diff -bw" works just as well for me.
> + (XFWDTYPE (innercontents))==Lisp_Fwd_Buffer_Obj,
^^
We like to put spaces around infix operators.
> +DEFUN ("symbol-setter-function", Fsymbol_setter_function, Ssymbol_setter_function, 4, 4, 0,
Hmm, no symbol-setter-function should be a variable (holding
a function), modified via add-function/remove-function.
Also the docstring should not recommend :override (which should be
a rather rare case, the more useful cases are probably :before
and :around), and in general it should just say how the function is
called and what it should return, without giving a primer about how to
modify such *-function variables, since we don't want to do that for
every *-function variable.
OTOH the docstring should document the different possible values of ENV
and their respective meaning.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-12 19:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-20 2:54 Proposal to change cursor appearance to indicate region activation Kelly Dean
2013-04-20 7:23 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-22 5:38 ` [PATCH] " Kelly Dean
2015-01-22 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 3:08 ` [PATCH] " Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 4:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 11:07 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 17:49 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-24 3:06 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-24 4:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-24 9:22 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-25 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-28 9:15 ` [PATCH] Run hook when variable is set Kelly Dean
2015-01-28 9:23 ` [PATCH] Proposal to change cursor appearance to indicate region activation Kelly Dean
2015-01-28 11:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-28 12:13 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-29 10:46 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-29 11:16 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-30 7:20 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 9:19 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-30 10:05 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-30 9:43 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-28 19:25 ` [PATCH] Run hook when variable is set Stefan Monnier
2015-01-29 8:20 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-29 8:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-01-29 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-30 7:34 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-31 9:18 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-31 20:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-02 5:40 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-02 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-03 19:56 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-03 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-05 3:10 ` [PATCH] (Updated) " Kelly Dean
2015-02-05 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-06 5:34 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-06 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-07 12:27 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-07 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09 3:24 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-12 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-02-13 23:08 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-14 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14 22:19 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-15 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 2:22 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-17 23:07 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-18 3:19 ` The purpose of makunbound (Was: Run hook when variable is set) Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 5:48 ` The purpose of makunbound Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 8:51 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 14:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 18:53 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 22:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 10:36 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 0:18 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 10:45 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 13:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 23:51 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 9:35 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 2:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-02-20 0:56 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-20 9:02 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 15:41 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-21 5:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-02-22 0:32 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 8:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-02-18 5:15 ` [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 10:35 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 6:48 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-21 14:18 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-21 20:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-22 0:32 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 10:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-02-22 21:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-23 3:09 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-23 4:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20 20:27 ` Proposal for debugging/testing option Kelly Dean
2015-02-24 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14 20:37 ` [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set Johan Bockgård
2015-02-15 19:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-15 19:53 ` Patches: inline vs. attachment, compressed vs. uncompressed. [was: Run hook when variable is set] Alan Mackenzie
2015-02-06 9:55 ` [PATCH] (Updated) Run hook when variable is set Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 23:29 ` [PATCH] " Richard Stallman
2015-01-31 9:23 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-31 23:16 ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-02 5:41 ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-01 2:04 ` Alexis
2015-02-01 4:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-01 8:58 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-29 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-30 7:14 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-30 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 20:34 ` [PATCH] Proposal to change cursor appearance to indicate region activation Stefan Monnier
2015-01-24 0:25 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 10:01 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-01-23 17:49 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-23 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 11:40 ` Kelly Dean
2015-01-23 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-22 5:41 ` Kelly Dean
2013-11-23 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-23 20:25 ` Drew Adams
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