From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sending bug reports without setting up email Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:37:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87twi7jq6z.fsf@gnus.org> <87r3dbhz5x.fsf@gnus.org> <6a51f3f7-b6e5-94e8-3b6d-0dd2efe345ed@cs.ucla.edu> <375d7040-05cb-377c-5df9-d345087291ee@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469033841 2616 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2016 16:57:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:57:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 20 18:57:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuo4-0006ER-Hc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:57:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35839 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuo3-0007f1-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59237) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuXa-0001hM-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuXY-00008A-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuXX-00006h-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuXW-0004ic-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:40:06 +0200 Original-Received: from modemcable106.219-58-74.mc.videotron.ca ([74.58.219.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:40:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by modemcable106.219-58-74.mc.videotron.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:40:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: modemcable106.219-58-74.mc.videotron.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aT1FFD1gNVBXwIY89hR2Qhbdgko= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205903 Archived-At: > And you could also see somebody who is very security conscious, I mean > paranoid, would want to send emails via TLS directly to the recipient's > MTA without going through the NSA, I mean intermediaries. Of course, nowadays this is becoming a losing proposition: MTAs only accept email from the sender's official MTA. So you (the sender) first need to send your email (via TLS) to your MTA, and *it* will then send it (maybe in the clear maybe not) to the recipient's MTA. Stefan