From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Replace trivial pcase occurrences in the Emacs sources Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:37:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87oad2irtd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5689456A.1010601@yandex.ru> <87egdy8tyz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56895FDE.4060406@yandex.ru> <8760za8r4a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9iunkcg.fsf@web.de> <87h8hc4xw2.fsf_-_@web.de> <83tvlcsnee.fsf@gnu.org> <20181024083423.GA13100@Swift> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1540384585 656 195.159.176.226 (24 Oct 2018 12:36:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:36:25 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 24 14:36:20 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gFIOa-0008Th-Ka for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:36:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFIQg-000743-OS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36981) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFIPk-0006zn-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFIPg-00053p-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=35570 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFIPf-000529-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gFINU-0006y1-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:35:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:zZAl1qHcuztqA5aGTUUgsWZUy/o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230622 Archived-At: >> > In what sense is the above cl-case more clear than the pcase equivalent? >> > I'm not saying the pcase version is better in those cases, but I think >> > the respective advantages and disadvantages pretty much balance out. >> I also wonder. Is it simply that people find pcase unfamiliar? > Well, I can't speak for others, but personally, though I find pattern > matching as a concept straightforward and intuitive, pcase syntax > seems unnecessarily complex and unintuitive. Joost, could you post this in another thread? You're discussing destructuring pcase patterns, whereas this discussion is about cl-case vs pcase, where there's no destructuring and no backquote in sight. Stefan