From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8wXYP4GY9hwW-9mYv6_LGMETZ8Vz3Ob1Bec6yh6kPT7yxjTkxA3V6dXY4ELra9tYiJUxJmgXKSIEX4w8HFiPRoeGVSQHDSoBVy1voj1e3Qo=@protonmail.com> <87wo6h1kwl.fsf@emailmessageidheader.nil> <83k12hgt43.fsf@gnu.org> <838siwhmco.fsf@gnu.org> <0348a76e-d55a-2e75-8ed1-1beaa6649ed6@gmail.com> <837dyfe45q.fsf@gnu.org> <245308ec-5154-7d4b-dba4-0b21f42a0e95@gmail.com> <835zdze1gs.fsf@gnu.org> <51cb2788-3086-367d-ec05-ea324da49a12@gmail.com> <83imhyd1w1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="97076"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?Cl=E9ment?= Pit-Claudel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 17 15:44:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jPRIA-000P9Q-9F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:44:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPRI9-0003u8-8g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:44:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPRHf-0003PA-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPRHe-0005db-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:20865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPRHc-0005cI-Lm; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:52 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id ADA52450162; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 22B38450150; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1587131030; bh=r20fyDlq7vJ2uCnOddzvp2LCa+D9lDpG+RajEWQYqyk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mFearh6+UnVh+DLEOfWRSxDw6l0Zwr6KTTFkrs8OXwNNQ2sQ7R57jMs2884TkmLyY Xr8QcmPXTlfZB4hgok3iCc828DGchNROV2F+uc0yubkKOWFpC4G0Dxtxz6fSLWZdPB wOAbhNYsasyvay75TbpOtvOBn5IU72ExfqVHFjUK3qY/ww/bXiYtxGft99jLPHtG+W ERNo5HNUBHgdR4J33ndinMl1sKAUqEjK8ZYtEHmpFnhp3NJPWIlsFA8x/feWSeJzck 4+SX7y5/FEoToea1QsoxP+PZ78qIWFHYhPnunZ2CgDTfDnRNLQ24tIkKp+3o+qYkhX Mgrzu3OOVx58Q== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.114]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D43E31204F5; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:43:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83imhyd1w1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:09:34 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247169 Archived-At: >> emacs -Q --daemon >> emacsclient --alternate-editor="emacs -Q" --nw # In this window, run M-x >> customize-face RET bold RET then exit >> emacsclient --alternate-editor="emacs -Q" --create-frame # In this >> window, run M-x customize-face RET bold RET >> >> The second customization window doesn't have 3D buttons. > > Because your Emacs was started as a daemon. No, it's only because the first use of customize was on a tty frame. The same happens if you emacs -Q -nw M-x customize-face ... M-x make-frame-on-display ... M-x customize-face ... -- Stefan