From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cc-mode fontification feels random Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83o8cge4lg.fsf@gnu.org> <62e438b5-d27f-1d3c-69c6-11fe29a76d74@dancol.org> <83fsxsdxhu.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmwudgw3.fsf@gnu.org> <20210610151647.qtt7pqbjhdtp6coe@Ergus> <20210611202130.j35q6k4utjivzuen@Ergus> <9e76076e-636d-9271-03e2-98c7614e3cf1@dancol.org> <2f0fe290-5e04-c0fb-d188-f45172b3e674@grinta.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16985"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniele Nicolodi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 16:06:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ls4HJ-0004Eu-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:06:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls4HH-0003Fc-K4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:06:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45058) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls4Fe-0002WX-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:04:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:55364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls4Fc-00049q-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:04:42 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 58F0F100347; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 094D710028A; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:04:37 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1623506677; bh=tiJQl6wsLZoxSaK5/WQmz262R9lvf4t9oYDDTeX2Xuw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=bfrsQ4UXDjA8xOn3t9IJiX23MNg1jlitFy9tdzRkK1EBwaSxjxIhsX1C1ihoNnql2 l63Gn7uXqfBLdq7MT8Od3SwQ5Ey1ZbYbLVgyLji+1gzMa641jYGp2Ulava/LKEJeZm cZ8qLKT1RNNoDV/x6RnqrrBKVm0ZVEmaubiySbrkMcNocvdy1grocaPTl8/HEMCTpZ A79hViav48erdndCIegBIzH+u1RlnEmb+ns284J3xwQM3Q/8yGohSlGCHslUKQy4Y7 1G7IjCjVZQJiz8HUveqZrZMjmkRFkBDmGr3oUeE4SYqLYydvFMv9WC0mKe8C1uDv3v uX8fstS1DhaKQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-196-163-239.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.163.239]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D11F512013B; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:04:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2f0fe290-5e04-c0fb-d188-f45172b3e674@grinta.net> (Daniele Nicolodi's message of "Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:47:28 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270761 Archived-At: Daniele Nicolodi [2021-06-12 10:47:28] wrote: > On 11/06/2021 22:52, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> PS: I think we can expect 99% of Emacs users have a Javascript engine >> already installed (in the form of a web browser), > The JS engine in a web browser and node are two very different beasts. > The main problem with node is that it is very hard to get it to work in > a self contained way that does not involve downloading JS packages from > the network. I also anticipate some resistance in the Emacs community on > depending on the JS ecosystem where licensing is much more "liberal" > than within the GNU project. I prefer to look at it as "how will we do it" than "what problems may prevent us from doing it". Otherwise, we'll never get there. Stefan