From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch: perform autoloading when docs is missing from autoload object Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2699"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 15 20:42:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQZr8-0000Rb-CL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:42:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQZr6-0000cE-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:42:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQZQf-0002hv-9J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:58986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQZQc-0006WR-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:39 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AB7A144066F; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6986944007B; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1631729673; bh=Bj5EeozxsDYZX/omo28NnLpAzMfhMmMcFDDPWQ3s6zg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=kT91ZGaV35HwCRRqYCGJjiKPB6yUPPCf4tS3wN3vbjjA2ac8bgIE3Embm3Muh3giZ oRspSKYKwCRrQzw5EaHRx/k0RyjJGM7+ECR3TgqIKpC+ZX7X46ysp4zTXnhIhQAoY8 xr8cF7phh8G4uNf6jjDKMTrsXD9ZpM3CPxf6mGoS7IlBWRZtPpz8+CzuP6UZouL3cJ 7F2Gfq+y+z/6HaZhfFSxRrADukrMs0eyQbN0tpOh3dzTXyAsRDz/BgwiFPytRRaJBe 4YEji8b3qG3Ok1BAqdyCM/S4riYhlRjCg/tV1C2C1PaUerzLU3LSNs9gUMRLtx+OiG S8kFzMQezF5jw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.241.23]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453D312040A; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 2021 15:51:44 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274759 Archived-At: > loads libraries when symbol is not loaded. I would actually prefer to just load > documentation not the entire library, and I think I can do that, but it is a > little bit more involved (have to find source and read the docs), unlike just > performing autoloading. Loading a docstring from the .el file can be tricky/cumbersome (at least if we want it to be reliable and 100% correct), but as for loading a docstring from a .elc file this is standard (its controlled by the variable `byte-compile-dynamic-docstrings`), although currently it seems it's not done for autoloads. Stefan