From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:30:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <875yg1bc02.fsf@posteo.net> <878rkxgpms.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfiyk3a2.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <838rkp4ptj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgd58i7y.fsf@posteo.net> <83k0492u5i.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsew8g18.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt941cyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13077"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 02:31:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1orqyu-0003HB-2V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 02:31:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orqy2-00040N-4G; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:30:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orqxx-000402-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:30:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1orqxv-0003JI-OO; Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:30:21 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7F466441374; Sun, 6 Nov 2022 20:30:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CC739441393; Sun, 6 Nov 2022 20:30:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1667784610; bh=mP8Lir+U5lZWoMXnZgdAm2Xtywqu1AR2S/4x1bJ92Cw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=SpVRCj9cbqfmfk+FlrENpklzXpREBKMmV0PSQ3vxoDQ6TAYcHp7pHYKfGw5Jv2Nl5 OJFmj/L3je6JvVIn4gkjPClUEAkMil2Ve2HDEzXzdCt3ki9Nx4Kf6eJCJu9bVKJNVY xdjN4lMqGNr/AkfEy0ZAy/FKyGXpaCVoPdaZ5NlkSQ8FUzN6l5m04JYB+b2dua6W4y WYjvWTkL4KAIwgkKpjGAOqrdVEXjHhXwUKn2PdyNpwZ/7P/CEUvqzdb2al0zj1Tjkd rr30ASXwflVN6u1/1L92fdyjUOCzY/2VnuJvppXLW86RBBsodQaWeGom9wvaXxNdCb ikYrz4Y0yjWtA== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [104.247.241.157]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FB14120FF6; Sun, 6 Nov 2022 20:30:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:35:10 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299273 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic [2022-11-06 18:35:10] wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >>> From: Philip Kaludercic >>> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >>> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:31:22 +0000 >>> >>> Let's say I notice a something I would want to change/add/fix in a >>> package I am using. find-function is just one way I would query Emacs >>> to open up the source, then make a few changes. If I decide that these >>> are worth up-streaming, it is nice to just commit them right away and >>> call `package-vc-prepare-patch' to send the maintainer an email. >> >> How many package users do that? > > I know of at least one for certain, and that is me. I do too. Also, the Borg, the Straight, and the DELPS package managers implemented that same functionality, so there's clearly a public for it. >> And if you think many do, why not clone the repository directly into >> ~/.emacs.d/elpa/? > > Because that won't take care of scraping for autoloads, byte > compilation and installing missing dependencies. Also because packages in there are expected to be installed under the - directory, whereas when installing from Git a package will be updated in place so its version number will keep changing, and it would be inconvenient to rename its directory every time. Stefan