From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: default-fill-column Date: 16 Nov 2003 17:58:05 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200311151637.hAFGbtK17946@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069023734 3915 80.91.224.253 (16 Nov 2003 23:02:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 00:02:12 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ALVuF-0006Wo-00 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:02:11 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ALVuF-0001Pk-00 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:02:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ALWpf-0003ij-A4 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:01:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ALWoZ-0003h1-JP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:00:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ALWnx-0002ym-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:00:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ALWnx-0002yj-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:59:45 -0500 Original-Received: from vor.iro.umontreal.ca (vor.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.42]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAGMw5bj012717; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:58:10 -0500 Original-Received: by vor.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 885CA3C547; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:58:05 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200311151637.hAFGbtK17946@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Original-Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17848 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17848 > I use `default-fill-column' as an example, but the remarks below seem to > apply to all variables of the type `default-some-buffer-local-variable'. Looks like a plain bug indeed. Could we just declare those `default-*' variables obsolete and tell people to use `setq-default' and `default-value' instead so we can slowly hope to get rid of those things ? If Luc's bugs were already present in Emacs-20 and Emacs-21, then we wouldn't even have to fix them. Stefan