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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	md5i@cs.cmu.edu, eliz@gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:56:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvbqlatmup.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3odpao1yv.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Mon\, 08 Jan 2007 00\:23\:52 +0100")

>> Why does it matter whether it was IBM, Apple or M$ who invented the
>> C-z C-x C-c C-v shortcuts (and thus broke compatibility with Emacs)?
>> 
>> someone else said it was unfair to attribute these to Microsoft, since
>> others actually designed the interface.
>> 
>> No matter what we think or feel, or whether history is on our side,
>> most "modern" applications use these bindings -- including GNOME, KDE
>> and Firefox, so today it is Emacs which is "incompatible" with "common
>> practice".
>> 
>> That is why it is important to note that Emacs and its command set
>> came first.

> So you claim to have invented the concept of doing cut, copy, and paste 
> via keyboard commands, and that Emacs was the first program to do that?

> Otherwise, this whole argument is silly.

I haven't read the actual text recently, but I think it makes sense to
mention that the current bindings predate CUA's, not to brag about it or to
complain about CUA's lack of respect for Emacs's choices, but so as to
explain why the current bindings don't play well with CUA: it's
a historical accident.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-07 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1H1qoi-0001av-Hq@monty-python.gnu.org>
2007-01-02 22:00 ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-02 22:28   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-02 23:02   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-03  3:46   ` Nick Roberts
2007-01-03 13:05   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-03 14:07   ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-03 15:54     ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-03 18:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-04  2:31     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  4:33       ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2007-01-04  7:30         ` David Kastrup
2007-01-04  9:28           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-04 10:24             ` David Kastrup
2007-01-04 11:35         ` Jan Djärv
2007-01-04 12:25           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-04 12:49             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-04 22:34             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-05 13:39               ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-06  2:55                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 23:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-01-07 23:23                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-07 23:56                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-01-08  0:16                       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 15:35                       ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-08 18:24                         ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 21:10                           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-08 19:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04 22:33         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  8:08       ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-03 21:11   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09  0:05 kevin.gal
2007-01-09  1:16 ` Chris Moore
2007-01-11  2:16   ` Kevin Gallagher
2007-01-11 16:49     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-11 17:46       ` Peter Whaite
2007-01-11 17:55         ` tomas
2007-01-11 18:35           ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-14 20:46         ` Richard Stallman

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