From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tabbed buffers Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:59:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <18330.23354.579245.68671@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87ejc5sf4l.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <18330.29609.396872.678539@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87wspxqwjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201467977 2659 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2008 21:06:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, miles@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 27 22:06:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJEi3-0004Pv-5v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:06:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJEhc-00052N-JO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:06:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJEhY-0004zp-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJEhX-0004zb-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJEhX-0004zY-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJEhM-0002uC-Dd; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:05:52 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEKBnEfO+J95dGdsb2JhbACQKAEwmWOBAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,257,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="13273879" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2008 16:05:51 -0500 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([206.248.159.121]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id HWG50051; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:05:51 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 06FC2B409A; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:59:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:09:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87658 Archived-At: >> But getting rid of them would just mean trouble. > I would certainly object. Richard was talking about a suggestion of mine, which was not to remove the frame functionality on ttys. How can people even expect me to suggest throwing away such a feature? All I was pointing out was that if we introduce frame-level tabs, then it might make sense to treat the current "multiple-frames on a single tty" as tabs rather than as frames. So we may want to refine the notion of tty frames so that each tty gets exactly 1 frame, and it can then multiplex several tabs on that frame: the end result is the same featureset as before, but in a way that more closely matches the semantics of frames&tabs under GUIs (where only one of the tabs of a frame can be displayed at a time, just like frames on a single tty). Stefan