From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: clang/emacs/ecb/semantic Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20940A983D814C6192ABFF2B7A269A88@gmail.com> <87wqx42nag.fsf@yandex.ru> <87ehjcrw70.fsf@engster.org> <87hao816w4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hao7ioos.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87zk1yhib2.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <50BAE369.2030503@dancol.org> <50BC0383.30208@dancol.org> <83ehj7rrko.fsf@gnu.org> <874nk3njay.fsf@gnu.org> <838v9frpcq.fsf@gnu.org> <50BCEBFB.1090004@dancol.org> <8338znrmuu.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354563469 12505 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2012 19:37:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pjb@informatimago.com, Daniel Colascione , rms@gnu.org, cyd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 20:38:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tfbpy-0007sN-Ev for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:37:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50163 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tfbpm-0007GO-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:37:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tfbpk-0007GG-BM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:37:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tfbpj-0003TL-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:37:40 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:39669) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tfbpd-0003Ri-Q4; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:37:34 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qB3JbOt8029163; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:37:24 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 033CEB415D; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:37:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8338znrmuu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:50:49 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4421=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4421> : streams <870543> : uri <1284358> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155206 Archived-At: >> Reducing functionality can *never* serve the cause of software >> freedom. While I'm not sure we can say that in absolute terms like you do, I generally agree with you that I do believe it hurts the Free Software movement to self-inflict restrictions in this way. [ I'm thinking of restrictions such as the FFI thingy for Emacs. BTW, now that we have the green light for the FFI, I really would be delighted to see movement on this front. ] Stefan