From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA security Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8738zf70ep.fsf@riseup.net> <871uejlbm1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k3rrr31g.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <874nium8h0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zk0ljaub.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wqvng299.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehhveg4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871udvcqgj.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357685219 13383 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2013 22:46:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 08 23:47:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tshww-00077Q-CT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:47:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43662 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tshwg-0007xz-OV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:46:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tshwe-0007xo-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tshwd-0001lB-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:46:55 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:43057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tshwd-0001l6-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:46:55 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r08Mkq8I030535; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:46:52 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6EE9159230; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:46:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <871udvcqgj.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:30:52 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4455=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4455> : streams <887675> : uri <1314239> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156167 Archived-At: SM> I do wonder about key management, tho: the GNU ELPA key (note: not SM> "maintainer" because the key does not belong to any human being) SM> will not last for ever. > I thought the maintainers would have their own keys, and they would sign > a GNU ELPA "signing subkey" that's only used for releasing. I'm sufficiently unsophisticated that I don't really know what that means. I understands keys can expire and can be revoked, but that doesn't say how the end-user will deal with such a situation. We need some way to update the signing key in a trustworthy way. Stefan