From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:44:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <87sir336qn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140301215057.GA19461@thyrsus.com> <87fvn1y0vx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761nusb90.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> <87387rvobr.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420605939 27502 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2015 04:45:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 07 05:45:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8iUd-0007sI-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 05:45:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39243 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8iUc-0005SE-84 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:45:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8iUN-0005Rp-3Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:44:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8iUI-0000ti-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:44:59 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:5467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8iUH-0000tP-WD; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:44:54 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsPAOwQflS4rwoL/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMQCw4mEhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQcBAQEBHpBvB4RIBYsBpC6BeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IPAS-Result: AjsPAOwQflS4rwoL/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMQCw4mEhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQcBAQEBHpBvB4RIBYsBpC6BeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="106954622" Original-Received: from 184-175-10-11.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([184.175.10.11]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 06 Jan 2015 23:44:53 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BC55A66100; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 23:44:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:26:48 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181022 Archived-At: >> David wants to write a GCC plugin that outputs the complete AST. > We do not want to promote that sort of plugin. What exactly does that mean? IIUC, it's *easy* to write such a plugin, so the only reason nobody's done it so far is because it's even easier to do it with clang, so noone but a true Free Software advocate would bother writing/using such a plugin. IOW discouraging such plugins only hurts *us*. Stefan