From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 01:04:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <55F5DD8C.70506@dancol.org> <55F62C16.4000105@dancol.org> <55F64F04.9030002@dancol.org> <55F6E43E.9030502@dancol.org> <55F70C4E.8030805@dancol.org> <560997DD.9090509@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443517053 4683 80.91.229.3 (29 Sep 2015 08:57:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Emacs development discussions , Philipp Stephani , =?windows-1252?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Aptel , Tom Tromey , Stephen Leake To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 29 10:57:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgqiw-0003B9-Sx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:57:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgqiw-0001Oy-4L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 04:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgn5Z-0002KK-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 01:04:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgn5U-0000sq-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 01:04:29 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:21719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgn5U-0000sa-62 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 01:04:24 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CYDQA731xV/wihxEVcgxCEAshgBAICgTw8EQEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQMBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kLIgLCM8jAQEBAQYCAR+LOoUFB4QtBbM/gUUjggocgW4igngBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0CYDQA731xV/wihxEVcgxCEAshgBAICgTw8EQEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQMBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kLIgLCM8jAQEBAQYCAR+LOoUFB4QtBbM/gUUjggocgW4igngBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="166217540" Original-Received: from 69-196-161-8.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.161.8]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 Sep 2015 01:04:23 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 467D16614A; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 01:04:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <560997DD.9090509@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:41:17 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190473 Archived-At: > Do we even need this optimization in the modern world? Life would be > simpler if we could just get rid of the lazy-loaded documentation string > machinery. I don't have an opinion on that. Regardless of whether it's lazy-loaded (from a DOC file or from a special section in the .so file or ...) or not, we need to define specifically where the doc will be found. Maybe if non-lazy-loading is used the doc can be provided in the source code without any special processing. That'd be nice. Stefan