From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bootstrap/autoload policy (was Re: regular expressions that match nothing) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7a6b23f52418b093a4cf7a6db4306cf425533249.camel@acm.org> <87a7fnzd3u.fsf@web.de> <128EBFB8-78FF-47C3-8F28-C1EF91BFC4BB@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="237536"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 22 16:24:37 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTSAU-000zYN-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 16:24:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44165 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTSAT-000555-2o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51751) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTSAE-000535-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTSAD-0006dX-Ju for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41972 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTSAD-0006TJ-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTSAA-000zEM-4x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 16:24:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:/a0OeY78WDEKLnrmDazfXzDrsJQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236896 Archived-At: >> cl-every is not autoloaded (in general). It's only autoloaded after you >> (require 'cl-lib), which is The Right Way to get it defined (as opposed >> to requiring cl-extra which is wrong because where cl-every is defined >> is an internal implementation detail of cl-lib). > I thought so too, but rx.el already did require cl-lib, and that was > apparently not enough. Hence my confusion. Hmm... the bootstrap is a funny beast and we additionally impose extra constraints to try and catch some bugs so... without seeing the error's backtrace I don't think I can say much more at this point. Stefan