From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Prefixed manual describe-function and api overview Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:16:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="16461"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , =?windows-1252?B?Sm/jbyBU4XZv?= =?windows-1252?B?cmE=?= , Emacs developers To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 04 14:17:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jgooA-00048E-EE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 14:17:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36890 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jgoo9-0003ZR-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jgonX-0002ie-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:16:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:58075) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jgonS-00045a-FR; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:16:38 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AF7594413E1; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 027114413D7; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:16:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1591272987; bh=apHoaOCzxQoSKGRq/3QVlBg07VqEtrmPYRFhR2glp2M=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=b08+JCdA5lGXFgy3JRHL1ndE/J9ZqErOk/Iro1tVFDombTi4M3mwW7WM1wZvGMYI/ nbd063TifCIscY74ASpy5WASpM8dFT60k9Rn3yuvbagbTkopdU8RYB0SBOo5OFom23 PIs2In2fqqAewpfRuSc+KyHe7g6wuZnW3j5h4SzvN0tKFBHv5X79EiboNx/zINe2HZ I5EbSTYoc6exrUwySp9BM3+edbNnWUchZkNchT6aivW3fviP9qcB5jD8iEIeM414Cg 9PS9AX2H2+H8um0iw16btfhLsjZrrpXJKAJgOP2hPq7FSeR7N5Cbe8fdyn+ljIWzRU iW2vDaLi/4lSw== Original-Received: from alfajor (76-10-137-254.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.137.254]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B342A120AE8; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:16:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Philippe Vaucher's message of "Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:39:22 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/04 08:16:32 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251850 Archived-At: > - I'm not sure I like "prefixed-manual", given this is more about > "manual-helpers". Feel free to suggest a better name. `fixed-manual` ? ;-) > - In `prefixed-manual-overview`, I'd like to display the full > signature of functions. For example display "(substring-no-properties > STRING &optional FROM TO)" instead of "substring-no-properties". If > you know a simple way I'm interested. I tried to use something like > `(get 'substring-no-properties 'function-documentation)` or play with > `documentation-property` but couldn't find easily and gave up. I think you're looking for `help-function-arglist`, but of course that only works for those functions already loaded into Emacs. Stefan