From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:05:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86a6ugnopl.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83im94b17m.fsf@gnu.org> <834kknatxs.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg86apqb.fsf@gnu.org> <865z52oqfp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83ft46akpm.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8it8wij.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7ol8s9o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7019"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: daniele@grinta.net, stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 16 21:06:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpd4Q-0001hZ-D9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 21:06:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42916 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpd4P-00024G-CX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:06:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpd2v-0000xq-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:9265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpd2r-0006N4-Vx; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:05:12 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9E4B910023D; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:05:08 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3F645100068; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:05:07 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1608149107; bh=uxboBvx/5ahHZTc30NNU1qOQ4TJrTycy78oisOopYvU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mj6nePHrer9xWUUqUiVWVPB10IzLOXRwuLR4uJuMdwJfxaAXy5LcW5MxT96lbbkjV x304CcbJHEXusQVyNlsdY6/fqWgRQBAa3WBMrVqUQYq/zAC6ME1Af20gXTx62/RVoB l4CnRN1EOwY9YRmyNtK3R28BTsGmwZL0ROPSs8r/KuyWrsLDj0NN0xPbE4t/Ka62qp HvgldfqtSm3ZVGSQpYdV//Do0E9gx3Y3IuEClakviqFam3WkbO0KmVMo7Tl/q1CD04 TM7DiGZMpmHvLAzQpaZVgzDFQwZCVOQRocCyBIUl0a3/S2zmcbzdls+PmO0/MryOuz qwDzvmfn9wS5g== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-136-52.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.136.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9A761203AB; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:05:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83h7ol8s9o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2020 21:28:35 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261046 Archived-At: > So what did you mean by "the tarball will include the same file as > before in emacs/lisp"? I meant that the bundling of ELPA packages won't touch the `lisp` subdirectory at all because the added files are placed elsewhere (in the sibling `elpa` directory). > I actually like the other alternative, because people will want faster > startup, and because it makes no sense to let users disable bundled > packages. If we think people will want to disable a package, we > shouldn't bundle it. OK, we can do that. Stefan