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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU-devel and NonGNU-devel
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:25:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvblcdtbr2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtvxii7u.fsf_-_@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2021 14:55:01 +0000")

> What are the exact differences in theory and practice between
> elpa.gnu.org/devel and elpa.gnu.org/packages, and
> elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu-devel and elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu?

The devel archives contain tarballs which reflect the current tip of the
Git branch (the one stored in `elpa.git` or `nongnu.git`, not
necessarily the same as the one upstream).

In contrast the non-devel archives only contain tarballs for those
commits where the `Version:` was changed.

> Are the devel archives intended as (possibly WIP) counterparts to MELPA?

It can be thought of as following the model of the non-stable part of
MELPA, but that doesn't make it MELPA to me at all since MELPA is
defined rather by the breadth of its coverage.

> Based on which criteria are new versions of devel packages released, and
> are they subject to :auto-sync in the same way as non-devel packages?

Sync'ing the elpa.git/nongnu.git branches with their upstream is
somewhat orthogonal to the devel-vs-release archives: the sync'ing is
always done between the upstream and the corresponding
elpa.git/nongnu.git branch.  This sync'ing is done for all package in
nongnu.git and only for those tagged with :auto-sync in elpa.git.
Once a sync brings changes to a branch, that will always result in a new
tarball in the devel archive, but it will only result in a new package
in the release archive is the `Version:` changed.

> Can the two devel archives be used as drop-in replacements for the
> default package-archives?

If you're willing to use bleeding edge code, yes.

> What are the pros/cons of doing so from a user's perspective?

The risk of breakage?


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-21 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17 19:50 A different way to interactively pass options to commands Clemens
2021-02-17 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 20:20   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19  5:41   ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19 14:30     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 20:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:32   ` Clemens
2021-02-17 20:42     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:58       ` Clemens
2021-02-17 21:24       ` Clemens
2021-02-17 22:15         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 21:48   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 22:23     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 22:47       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 23:52         ` Clemens
2021-02-17 22:24     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 23:18       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 10:09         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18  1:16       ` Doug Davis
2021-02-18 10:03         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:39           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-02-18 10:52             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 12:13               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 17:45                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 17:55                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 18:32                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-19 11:59                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 16:11               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 15:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:28               ` Development snapshots on GNU ELPA (was: A different way to interactively pass options to commands) Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-02-19 12:01               ` A different way to interactively pass options to commands Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 14:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-21 14:55                   ` GNU-devel and NonGNU-devel (was: A different way to interactively pass options to commands) Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-21 20:25                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-02-25  2:19                       ` GNU-devel and NonGNU-devel Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-19 15:44               ` A different way to interactively pass options to commands Jonas Bernoulli
2021-02-19 18:23                 ` Clemens
2021-02-22  0:18                   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-02-22  2:39                     ` T.V Raman
2021-02-22  9:17                     ` Questions about transient (was: Re: A different way to interactively pass options to commands) Joost Kremers
2021-02-22 15:08                       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-02-22 21:06                         ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-22 16:25                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-23 12:15                     ` A different way to interactively pass options to commands Stephen Leake
2021-02-23 19:06                       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-02-19  5:42     ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19  6:32       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-21 10:28   ` Phil Sainty

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