From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PACKAGE-FEATURES, and hot update of Emacs packages Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5C502136-57BD-40D4-A1E8-A4313AD7CDFC@stanford.edu> <87a6hpkrj5.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13826"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 28 06:14:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mrCVv-0003Pz-N8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 06:14:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47852 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrCVu-0003Vb-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:14:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrCUq-0002qc-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:13:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:44812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrCUn-0005E9-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5A7401001AC; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:12:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E7D7B100040; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:12:56 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1638076376; bh=bPgmgXPFT5AdgVF2ymV4V5N7cFVIp9MXdOHhNzKzBDU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=OgCQv1X+qN5wRWUnn2juXtWoMOmXDwQzYySvIzWDgGJJPlz3COLLx5MWOVaassVgE 3o488/ArTIubiGv45ecim6xieaJ3JihDTgdSG3mrGxqzLQ3fBEC5vMIKNMBfWk9bQ7 LHd7EytVTU/UyKukzlVwqTO2lO1KzTqj/A5y8qQwth78geKo4xuxFVvQn/YBU+TpcN Gd9cq2cKAHDRUtfxX89m1769opQfRhYH/YMQj5UeICr8IWv7eUgaRdlnXQW2GyyKDT uJBv/i3bFbNa/iDH+Koop+YKIsWjrX6+abbfHGqpqgotxrFPUBRfoWsPaA5fHy0fy2 9dfi6P9NMOQcg== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94546120791; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:12:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87a6hpkrj5.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:04:53 +1100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280370 Archived-At: > While I like the idea of being able to use package version to help > manage this, the problem is there is no standardisation of package > version formats. This makes calculation of which version is before/after > another version unreliable. FWIW, `package.el` does impose some convention for version representation (basically, whatever can be parsed by `version-to-list`) which provides a proper ordering between versions. [ I don't have much to add to the rest of the discussion, sorry. ] Stefan