From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:22:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <838rkp4ptj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgd58i7y.fsf@posteo.net> <83k0492u5i.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsew8g18.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt941cyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> <87mt90tyns.fsf@thaodan.de> <87o7tgfw4m.fsf@posteo.net> <87eductx0x.fsf@thaodan.de> <871qqcfs9y.fsf@posteo.net> <87v8no9gjx.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6759"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Bidar , Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 09 19:24:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ospkE-0001Xm-22 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:24:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ospj6-0000za-N7; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ospj5-0000z6-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:23:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ospj3-0006Yj-NL; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:23:03 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8899E44148E; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:22:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2BE834413C3; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:22:56 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1668018176; bh=UhEY9WCheKwWHAJ5xpcFlsJg7rMu5vEO1+tyltDyh/M=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=PPl3PjtSUFaIqOxnEtO3nIkIEJ661kzIdtGBHBcfTBPXmJzdys7+XX38J7PZMohFS N9qxelZjf+w15X9mEMpy2tYU6iRPf3HGeYFjiT9nQBrt7YHDUiRl6zec06ZcafNIEi JyUThAsUD9Ogh9PNt/MNnhvFUdvIxA2QhUfsx25NnHkgCQcv9tTjF1aSusWfaYXNU7 UR8hYZ9wy0tw+ptnrsMjmdPvcFcfkqOGBwMoQCZaGj+7IVZjPRXNmVLv+a4RWnPHi3 WlOhsEGtDXy/uyr3ZnaB4ywfjDJYCZLB0I1zaUqSoS7QlWDhjt3ZtNd157JPjvQk5o Pf6YZl32t3kOQ== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00ABC1202A7; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:22:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87v8no9gjx.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Wed, 09 Nov 2022 17:35:46 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299423 Archived-At: >> Those for `extensions/` can be handled by adding `extensions/` to >> the `load-path` in the `-autoloads.el` generated by >> `package-vc-install`. > OK, but how would this generalise? Hard-coding something like "if > 'extensions/' is renamed to the '', then add 'extensions/' to > `load-path'" doesn't sound desirable. Agreed. The main problem is that `:renames` doesn't say if it's done for ELisp files or for something else. If we knew that than it would be a simple matter of checking if the new name is just "". There are other packages with extra ELisp subdirectories (e.g. `proof-general` and `hyperbole`) which handle them differently. I'd be tempted to say that the way `corfu` and `vertico` do it (i.e. via `:renames`) should be discouraged. E.g. let them add `extensions` to `load-path` "by hand" rather than get a similar result via `:renames`. Stefan