From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questions regarding PGTK, high-dpi font-rendering, new X11-Warning Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87cz99l4td.fsf@thaodan.de> <87v8n1w7cf.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn7gc53k.fsf@thaodan.de> <87r0xnx4fs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edtncvss.fsf@thaodan.de> <87ilizwbkw.fsf@yahoo.com> <87cz94vjgl.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jugv9wi.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36349"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: xenodasein@tutanota.de, =?windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Bidar , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 17:51:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p0QJ0-0009Bf-AT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 17:51:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0QIW-0001Mj-3C; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:51:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0QIU-0001Li-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:50:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0QIH-0002ww-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 13ABD100184; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:50:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A68DA10010F; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:50:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1669827038; bh=2llinhdkqKbQeo0pNXEa/U2MSjOZI0aNHtor0PN8HUg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=AoES550OOzi2KmXmZgRWxaXB5NMp6uyA8DtfD6LSsmZ/O480voS57mE3AXUG/HEL3 j+WYF15eiSg4lcZse0vAUtaZT+4JoG/MRtRy5HyTP+s/iRcq7bW94h8TAhu0umJgL+ rW47Iz8akxLej5xLjPZGVcQds4nCeIZRCXZYtvl80s2nhtw77LRbRobCt3+XpSkLuC FSxnUbrU32C1to/nBHNaSH3a2lUUgX8jxhFFz6e+yUjW9MnyovUHgB4MTgpa9ekCzs CnIGEUdrETo7iqdfT5Vy1YI9EBSkaXn62+dwTl3QF9fcJ/LhNildEApF5D3CPseqQM rW2yDzU8oC2zw== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93ED0120FBD; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:50:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <874jugv9wi.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2022 21:39:41 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300774 Archived-At: Po Lu [2022-11-30 21:39:41] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> FWIW, I really wish we moved in this direction. Make it possible to >> build a single Emacs executable which can use GNUstep frames, PGTK >> frames, tty frames, X11 frames, some with Athena toolkit widgets others >> with no-toolkit widgets, etc... ideally all at the same time. > The first and second part is definitely too much to ask for... using the > event loop of one of those toolkits immediately precludes using the > other. What I read here is "we should move each GUI event loop into its own thread" :-) Stefan