From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> <87zlsouef7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206418002 23793 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 04:06:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, acm@muc.de, Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 05:07:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Je0RK-0003T9-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:07:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je0Qj-00081Y-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Je0Qe-00081T-Bl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Je0Qc-00081B-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je0Qc-000818-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Je0QY-0002WA-DB; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:22 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsIEAI4W6EdMCrTo/2dsb2JhbACBWqcD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,550,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="16577478" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2008 00:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.180.232]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id FHF05422; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9BCE48069; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:06:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:50:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93388 Archived-At: > Similarly, Transient Mark mode works very well (due to years > of Emacs hackers turning it on in their own init files), and provides > a real benefit to new users (direct visual feedback). > It is a total pain in the neck unless mark-even-if-inactive is t. It *is* t. Stefan