From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:34:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <48C0FC53.4020806@gmail.com> <6fa54e4e0809050420i5132ace5red5a011b69ecd1ed@mail.gmail.com> <8763p795cq.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87iqt6q0na.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <6fa54e4e0809081007l68f1df2ei71450cf3483f2d17@mail.gmail.com> <48C5778F.2020203@emf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220906085 20249 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2008 20:34:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, pmr@pajato.com, Chong Yidong , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Antoine Levitt , raman@users.sourceforge.net, phil@shellarchive.co.uk To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 08 22:35:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KcnSQ-0006lH-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:35:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36848 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnRR-0004wc-1t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnRN-0004wX-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:34:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnRL-0004wL-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50687 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnRL-0004wG-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:34:27 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:54448) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KcnRD-0004xc-V4; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from alfajor.home (vpn-132-204-232-214.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.214]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m88KYA6p013147; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E8BAE1C150; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:34:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <48C5778F.2020203@emf.net> (Thomas Lord's message of "Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:05:51 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3099=0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103702 Archived-At: > Emacs has the concept that two windows can look at the same buffer. This is a general problem for the XEmbed thingy, whether it displays a browser or something else. There are various ways to punt on the problem: only draw in one of the two windows put a grey rectangle in the other, or do a vnc-style "let's copy the pixmap pof the first onto the other, so even if there's only one active, the other is at least displayed right". But it doesn't matter that much in practice: people will just have to live with the limitation, but it doesn't make the idea unusable. You won't get some of the power you usually expect from Emacs, but then again, you never had this power in Firefox anyway, so it's not like you lost anything. Stefan