From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7b501d5c0908091634ndfba631vd9db6502db301097@mail.gmail.com> <998B83F771474211A37D1E2B6A497B61@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249925067 20251 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2009 17:24:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Carsten Dominik' , 'Daniel Colascione' , 'Leo' , 'CHENG Gao' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 10 19:24:20 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MaYbb-0005s6-Js for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:24:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50185 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaYba-0000Ss-IB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaYZ0-0007ZW-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaYYw-0007Wm-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52509 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaYYw-0007WP-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts13.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34]:56153 helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaYYv-0007yD-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from toip7.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.124]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090810172117.EDEL27263.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip7.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:17 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHfuf0pGN48s/2dsb2JhbACBUs9FhBgF Original-Received: from bas1-montreal42-1178046252.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ceviche.home) ([70.55.143.44]) by toip7.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:24:04 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8503CB454F; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <998B83F771474211A37D1E2B6A497B61@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:01:21 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113986 Archived-At: > I agree with Daniel, Carsten, and others that `eval-after-load' should > not be demonized. I don't know what makes you think it's "demonized". We explicitly support and document the feature, so we clearly think it has value. But we also want to make it clear that within Emacs's own code, its use is discouraged (but not disallowed). Stefan