From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Further CC-mode changes Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:39:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <53632C6F.5070903@dancol.org> <20140511211351.GC2759@acm.acm> <536FEA43.5090402@dancol.org> <20140516175226.GB3267@acm.acm> <537653A0.2070109@dancol.org> <20140518213331.GB2577@acm.acm> <20140912235948.GA4045@acm.acm> <20140913151055.GB3431@acm.acm> <87vboo2rgk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410874873 7644 80.91.229.3 (16 Sep 2014 13:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Alan Mackenzie To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 16 15:41:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XTt0B-00068a-G6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:41:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTt0B-0002sU-4c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41895) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTszE-0002aB-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:40:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTsyx-0001wJ-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:56600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTsyx-0001sN-68; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:39:47 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F4284F73; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9371E5913; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9513CB42B3; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:39:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87vboo2rgk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:07:39 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 132.204.24.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174358 Archived-At: >> solve. If you choose to spend some of that time supporting old Emacs >> versions (and XEmacs by now is a very old Emacs version), then that is >> reducing the amount of time you can spend on eg improving C++11 support >> (to pick a non-random example). IMO this is a clear loss, so I hope you >> will reconsider your position on that. > -1 IOW, the issue is not "should CC-mode drop support for XEmacs?", but "should CC-mode's maintainer spend his time preserving XEmacs compatibility?". While the indentation code is rather involved (and hence difficult for someone other than Alan to hack on), the code need for compatibility with a particular emacs is not particularly deep or tricky, so many more people can contribute to that. Stefan