From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:41:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83o9d5q1bi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536586777 31959 195.159.176.226 (10 Sep 2018 13:39:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 13:39:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 15:39:33 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fzMPd-0008El-2Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:39:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51763 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzMRh-0006ZY-F7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:41:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzMRb-0006ZR-GV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:41:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzMRW-000548-In for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=56369 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzMRW-00053e-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fzMPM-0007xm-Ni for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:39:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:sxjVA2baHiX8ZDbR+zQERlVUpyE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229630 Archived-At: > The _only_ problem I personally have with delete-selection-mode is > that it also replaces the region created by the likes of "C-x C-x", > something that "most software out there" does not and cannot do. AFAIU the issue here is that you're using C-x C-x as navigation (a habit you might have gotten from the time when transient-mark-mode was disabled) rather than as a way to activate the region. So I think this is a not a problem with d-s-m but with C-x C-x. Also, I think it's a problem that comes from your habits, and if d-s-m had always been enabled you'd simply have different habits and wouldn't suffer from it. So I'm not sure it's an argument against d-s-m, really. Stefan