From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 27.1 Windows Binaries -- testing wanted Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:54:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83pn7oft7r.fsf@gnu.org> <5fd1bc533b4bfe603d106fb3ee816208@russet.org.uk> <83364keznu.fsf@gnu.org> <87imdgrlpq.fsf@telefonica.net> <83tuwzewxa.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeo3sxw0.fsf@telefonica.net> <47436f6137c965db141e290de6597fd5@russet.org.uk> <464a5bf221d1d77ea13381fb901931fd@russet.org.uk> <834kovbx7x.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6yk72ec.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo1o59kt.fsf@gnu.org> <868se3gaec.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34039"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 20:55:33 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHcz-0008ko-7A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:55:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHcy-0004Gg-7t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:55:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHcE-0003jq-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:54:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:12514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHcC-0002yt-91 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:54:45 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4787A44157A; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D370F440790; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:54:41 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1598295281; bh=gvomUu/dcgLmEq/bw17fIPhaCD1m2A2Gvi4h8aeNoso=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DQgWw5ByETMiDC9oNuQAhNwqViCDCHwAQaIn99NBGmjN8fz+xe64dSix/tz1tAWF9 D5gtns+YGZ62nzhdu9aomOYdps0KoEBMa/gw6kp3w1iHNaD07ai+r9WvXKahb7ykbu sNBWq5iEFrFzeoQmA4ns14KtbTm6mUuy7efY+l1eH6sCwAV8o04c4aHBdo/WJvVOjd 273CM+2w2hArFv+SFwHFZlKAtlr/yEsxI2LcC0UxtJ60iB1Ko7HCICwXWoFNpj1M4F yRIl/9rUt8KXuvRxS2qxap8dfzs1dgx2rlCKwibwpQTatoaGnEVUqNxoemHps9ugzn 75tjaFYTH3G/A== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2A311208D7; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:54:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <868se3gaec.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:35:07 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/24 14:54:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254199 Archived-At: >>> No, we want to know what the executable and its environment, as >>> provided in the bundle, will yield at run time. >>> >>> I agree that it might catch some irrelevant circumstances, but that's >>> inevitable, at least if such simple tests are being sought. >> >> Then I guess we disagree on the purpose. >> >> For me, the purpose of such a list of features is to help the user >> figure out whether a given problem comes from their config or from the >> Emacs build itself. > > Run it once with -Q, once with ~/.emacs. Yes, there are a million ways to diagnose problems. None of them work in all cases, and none of them are ever the only possible approach. Stefan