From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o8ls1vvq.fsf@posteo.net> <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87lfgciy9f.fsf@igel.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17441"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 20:31:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRg8E-0004S2-8H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 20:31:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59740 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRg8D-00067R-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:31:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRg5w-0004Yt-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:17082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRg5u-0007zj-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:19 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E057D80E1C; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CA5AF8009D; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602440955; bh=woiMeARtPBvCh+0JnI0fIaMDoGVSWOS2AGBs7WwbTSY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=AZjGAoJGRWtc1IuF3DaKAWMQHtWa4kglLbq7U3XcCHKKClm6g/XMfuvljuaQJ1acg eSvESqS2DU0u6CR/qUvsx7DfXs9f6A+r+s4DncGsOPR5B+HSvt0roSgUF5pAeboZcj IaJQIw+cXSkm6G9x1Ixq5pclFuoOO46lfg23WD1+xDxCglzdmwfJIhWXrUdfJBOK7R dUCpui5vErIkh7go1GWc+eEj1vNcH8YQ3xwk7Lv57pl9pRuEG6CBSXjsTbDw+0nwvi SVxvC2t9aOf0+9ztEn9t2qmtoMPxBeed+gyoyhC34G1OTEeCjjU6vgELhWphjnxEpu BL5qxal6lEOZA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5078120330; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lfgciy9f.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2020 17:21:48 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/11 14:29:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257389 Archived-At: > Make sure that the header-line face does *not* inherit the > variable-pitch face. My header-line face uses the same variable pitch face as my mode line, so I'm not sure why you say the above. There are indeed several uses of the header-line that need/want to be aligned with the buffer's content (typically for tabular formats), which I bumped into back when I started using a variable pitch face for the mode/header-lines, but these should be fixed in any case (for those people like me who use a variable pitch face), and I have indeed fixed those cases that I saw (e.g. `list-buffers`, `list-packages`, `csv-mode`, `ses-mode`, ...). Stefan