From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <87blamp5hy.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28719"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 12 16:00:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVx6n-0007Eg-8L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 16:00:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49202 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVx6m-0003aF-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVx5z-00039E-3L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:14133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVx5w-0004AA-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7453C807E8; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 607FF801AB; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1618235953; bh=t9fo2kGabSeqooDSg92Cp9Uv2Q9qk/6eA85asf2vHz0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DwAFVx98UKHUpDipYG5pJdwhtBY+UvIOFnA1wS0X9MMGNrYGHhVQXXmareFPSvfjP ExiT5c8SfXtSj1z/nj/R7YePLv1pHoIRfaDs8i8OVEGVLzwV4vGM9fTfyX03zQeaG+ zlH3YJ5vwbfOD7fOmU6nuXTMN5gU+n4bdXL66LGGzwVACzNnGEsZeNw0ZNxArCFDFZ Obsv3RGAhRxfVFFy+EI5EwGjuAzx0whTpUXEHOuZOxW4Fw9VCm0cUO56tEbF3jvsZK qydt3WWipZeXAkG8AEYvjju5TDoSEc+SQc8SaV4rYpH8qLhg+mFrU510tUlunUN91v dqra7p9oie6uw== Original-Received: from alfajor (104-222-126-84.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.222.126.84]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B3B01202F2; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87blamp5hy.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:40:41 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267963 Archived-At: > I attached a primitive version of selecting-read to this message. > The UI is horridly primitive, but the basic idea should be understandable. Nice starting point, thanks. [ I'm too biased towards `completing-read` to make very useful comments at this point. ] I think if you want to get traction with this, you'll want to come up with some concrete uses and a real UI which provides something that is better (in those particular uses) than what we can already get from existing completion systems (company/helm/ivy/younameit). Stefan