From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>,
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:25:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwva650rr0z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qqcfs9y.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Wed, 09 Nov 2022 08:26:01 +0000")
>> Without such a system the package could be without use in many cases.
> Many is probably the word of contention here. If you take a look at
> elpa.git:elpa-packages, you'll find only a few :make or :shell-command
> directives, none of which are critical. nongnu.git:elpa-packages has
> non at all.
Indeed. We don't use `make` or `ninja` to compile the ELisp files,
instead we impose a standardized way to compile them.
[ And those packages which rely on special build procedures will often
suffer from problems with the native compiler, which will lazily
recompile the files to native code without paying attention to the
special build requirements. ]
> One thing I worry about, but which has also been discussed
> here are :renames.
Indeed. Currently `elpa-admin.el` doesn't obey them when using "install
from Git" (it does obey them when building the tarballs, of course) :-(
> E.g. Vertico uses these to move extensions from a subdirectory to the
> main directory for packaging. But moving the files would be
> registered by the VCS, and could make committing changes more
> difficult. Maybe we could create symbolic/hard links instead
> of renaming?
Moving is definitely out of the question, but symlinks and hardlinks are
also problematic. We should probably document that `:renames` are not
fully supported in all cases and should thus be avoided.
I currently count 6 :renames, two for `extensions/` and 4 for `docs/`.
AFAIK Those for docs are needed only because `package-install` handles
`.info` files only in the root directory of packages, but that doesn't
afflict `package-vc`, so we should be able to find a better solution.
Those for `extensions/` can be handled by adding `extensions/` to
the `load-path` in the `<pkg>-autoloads.el` generated by
`package-vc-install`.
Stefan
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2022-02-14 16:20 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
2022-02-14 20:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-14 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-14 23:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-15 2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-15 17:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-15 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-16 22:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-17 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-17 9:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-19 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-19 18:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-19 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-18 8:57 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-02-18 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-08 15:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-08 15:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 16:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 14:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 14:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 14:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 15:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-10 8:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-10 11:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 16:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: names Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 7:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-21 19:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-15 20:43 ` package-contact-maintainer Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:35 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 9:19 ` package-contact-maintainer Stefan Kangas
2022-10-16 11:02 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 13:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 19:47 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-16 22:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 22:27 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-20 16:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 17:44 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-21 19:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:04 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 6:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 22:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Multiple index entries Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` "Package from Source" Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 16:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Installation from ELPA Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-24 19:30 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-28 21:57 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-19 7:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 22:18 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 5:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-17 12:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-17 17:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 21:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 7:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 12:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 13:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-21 21:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 22:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-22 10:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-22 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-22 15:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 11:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 13:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 15:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 20:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 20:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 7:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 23:14 ` Tim Cross
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2022-10-09 12:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 21:36 ` Tim Cross
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2022-10-15 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:14 ` Sean Whitton
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2022-10-16 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 9:29 ` tomas
2022-10-16 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 11:32 ` tomas
2022-10-16 22:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 6:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 17:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 17:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 19:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-20 16:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-22 19:59 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 9:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-25 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-26 7:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 12:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 15:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 18:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 19:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 23:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 16:46 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-01 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-01 18:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-01 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-01 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 22:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-02 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 8:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-02 12:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 14:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
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2022-11-02 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-11-02 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 13:16 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-28 17:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 15:14 ` Merging feature/package+vc Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-29 15:39 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
2022-10-29 16:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 13:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-30 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 22:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-04 18:01 ` feature/package-vc has been merged Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-04 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 16:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-11-07 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-11-09 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-16 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-16 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 19:05 ` Updating the "ELPA Protocol" Philip Kaludercic
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