From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87fsew8g18.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt941cyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> <87mt90tyns.fsf@thaodan.de> <87o7tgfw4m.fsf@posteo.net> <87eductx0x.fsf@thaodan.de> <871qqcfs9y.fsf@posteo.net> <875yfotn63.fsf@thaodan.de> <87pmdvsx2g.fsf@thaodan.de> <87wn83itn2.fsf@thaodan.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4779"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 10 01:12:51 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1osvBb-00010R-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:12:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osvAk-0000P0-Od; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:11:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osvAj-0000OU-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:11:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osvAh-0005C8-Ev; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:11:56 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7AC6C441500; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:11:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 17D154414F3; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:11:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1668039110; bh=ddzq+k4FapUTlwM+iyp6LMyYZ5LiPShrMp50qy3Qej8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ADtcYP6q7H/RMKyOD5hgaT7aw2gkgcJmYbnzCcV+GKb4HM32bhSmcGv9brcgJppZ3 058Xjxq3yIkl9h/yIBkpGDoiN+PkkCJwfvpPWiedraa6P1IsuBKLn7424Qbkm910Ml 4PgVP9v8pZErarylN5fXAu/yxeEaFPILpsO+lYWq9UP1n19GxhIN+2fQmH53vK35l4 T3269waBML2R8skycWrObXrJQa+Z9aLTh93U/d4MH0dnYN5AO1wXOib1e1cKL1Wb8O UXWYEuIByxFXDdbxL2T9Oz1QrhKSdi36q6007iesVo2iemlG/gMcuEVvXaaoxCWKOO qF74t4UP2c//A== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.157]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0E091201CB; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:11:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87wn83itn2.fsf@thaodan.de> (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Bj=F6rn?= Bidar"'s message of "Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:40:33 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299447 Archived-At: > I'm exactly talking about you reference but with addition that there's > no standard load-path for native modules. Regular lisp modules which are > unless native compilation is used interpreted or byte compiled go to > /usr/share. Ah, that. Yes, we have a problem here because we just search along `load-path` but this normally holds architecture-independent files, whereas modules are architecture-dependent. I suspect nobody took up that challenge yet because it's quite rare nowadays to share /usr or $HOME across several machines and even more so across machines using different architectures. >>> But just don't run them inside Emacs itself and not synchronously. >> I lost you here. I have no idea what "them" refers to. > Any process that involves package-vc by it building the package or > fetching their sources. Ah, that's a small matter of programming. Stefan