From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter introduction documentation Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83edszjslp.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu1vxs3a.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <831qozjob7.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz8jxoat.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <83wn6ri7pn.fsf@gnu.org> <5e0a3185-de82-b339-0fa2-956779e63d6f@cornell.edu> <868rj6vfep.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28180"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 17 16:42:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6ZKz-0007AR-AY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 16:42:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6ZKZ-0002qX-N1; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6ZKY-0002px-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6ZKW-0008LV-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:29 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BDB761004EA; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:27 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 27A6910029F; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:22 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1671291742; bh=bE2+psw2EYzE8t7d26CApQ4cFdZWVvs6hZJmNC+I17U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=OkVo96V0DroCmdMSAV3wDJ81oxsNdiJQx8ar/tKDFKmWa3B1p7mAfOvgS9R5VDAL6 V8x777xUq0FFH2AoSzVp6B2dxDSx7GPX2GESoIVeYVEGV74P0OBtAWkxTWuQzen+H1 wDWxG0nokfFlCEp3qpKC1rH+fqsyfcPKhiMduR5kLVVhEE+C2wxZIeDlD5UyEsfgOT SZUgOapma65ohAKnFXEVI06I5xYD7Zgpz0SXTcMx9RJn8hGE1sJV6buDpN54R8e7Ie nNQkDKEPDxhmQzE8S6aOSHDiKuE0zCNxrrZJQB+Ga5Ft7oA9tCooHZyjRcFOpAB8MA qcFUG43be9Wtg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.193.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F240C120199; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:42:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <868rj6vfep.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:06:59 +1100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301565 Archived-At: > Distributions with a rolling release model, like Arch, will likely see > the language definition libs as packages much sooner than the other > distros. Why would we think so? Those grammars have been in use for a while now (by other editors), AFAIK, so why would the situation change just because Emacs starts to use them as well? I do want the situation to change, mind you, so my question here is how can we encourage the distributions to change: I don't think we can expect them to change "just because". Stefan