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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
       [not found] ` <20230621132823.6C945C06C79@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
@ 2023-06-25 23:26   ` Stefan Monnier
  2023-06-26 11:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2023-06-25 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii

Hi Eli,

>     Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
>
>     * lisp/startup.el (startup--load-user-init-file): Ignore the value
>     of 'debug-ignored-errors' when loading init files if we were
>     invoked interactively with --debug-init.  (Bug#64163)

I understand you didn't like my patch because of the cosmetic renaming
it included, but you threw away some of the baby with the bathwater:

> -		(load (if (equal (file-name-extension init-file-name)
> -				 "el")
> -			  (file-name-sans-extension init-file-name)
> -			init-file-name)
> -		      'noerror 'nomessage))
> +                ;; If they specified --debug-init, enter the debugger
> +                ;; on any error whatsoever.
> +                (let ((debug-ignored-errors
> +                       (if (and init-file-debug (not noninteractive))
> +                           nil
> +                         debug-ignored-errors)))
> +		  (load (if (equal (file-name-extension init-file-name)
> +				   "el")
> +			    (file-name-sans-extension init-file-name)
> +			  init-file-name)
> +		        'noerror 'nomessage)))

Now the changes I make to `debug-ignored-errors` in my `init.el` are
thrown away :-(


        Stefan




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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
  2023-06-25 23:26   ` master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files Stefan Monnier
@ 2023-06-26 11:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-06-26 13:57       ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-06-26 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:26:27 -0400
> 
> > -		(load (if (equal (file-name-extension init-file-name)
> > -				 "el")
> > -			  (file-name-sans-extension init-file-name)
> > -			init-file-name)
> > -		      'noerror 'nomessage))
> > +                ;; If they specified --debug-init, enter the debugger
> > +                ;; on any error whatsoever.
> > +                (let ((debug-ignored-errors
> > +                       (if (and init-file-debug (not noninteractive))
> > +                           nil
> > +                         debug-ignored-errors)))
> > +		  (load (if (equal (file-name-extension init-file-name)
> > +				   "el")
> > +			    (file-name-sans-extension init-file-name)
> > +			  init-file-name)
> > +		        'noerror 'nomessage)))
> 
> Now the changes I make to `debug-ignored-errors` in my `init.el` are
> thrown away :-(

They are?  AFAIU, the code only overrides the value of
debug-ignored-errors if Emacs was invoked with --debug-init, and
otherwise honors whatever value you set in your init files.  Or what
am I missing?



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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
  2023-06-26 11:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-06-26 13:57       ` Stefan Monnier
  2023-06-26 14:27         ` Stefan Monnier
  2023-06-26 14:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2023-06-26 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel

>> > -		(load (if (equal (file-name-extension init-file-name)
>> > -				 "el")
>> > -			  (file-name-sans-extension init-file-name)
>> > -			init-file-name)
>> > -		      'noerror 'nomessage))
>> > +                ;; If they specified --debug-init, enter the debugger
>> > +                ;; on any error whatsoever.
>> > +                (let ((debug-ignored-errors
>> > +                       (if (and init-file-debug (not noninteractive))
>> > +                           nil
>> > +                         debug-ignored-errors)))
>> > +		  (load (if (equal (file-name-extension init-file-name)
>> > +				   "el")
>> > +			    (file-name-sans-extension init-file-name)
>> > +			  init-file-name)
>> > +		        'noerror 'nomessage)))
>> 
>> Now the changes I make to `debug-ignored-errors` in my `init.el` are
>> thrown away :-(
>
> They are?  AFAIU, the code only overrides the value of
> debug-ignored-errors if Emacs was invoked with --debug-init, and
> otherwise honors whatever value you set in your init files.  Or what
> am I missing?

There's a let-binding of `debug-ignored-errors` around the `load`, so
the old value is restored when we finish `load` :-(

That's what the `startup` value in `debug-on-error` is about (which
I changed to `startup--witness` in my patch to try and make it more
clear): to detect when init files changed the value and then be careful
to preserve this new value when we exit the `let`.

BTW, another difference is that you seem to have that offending code in
3 places whereas the setting of `debug-on-error` happens only once
(which is why I put my code alongside that setting rather than around
each and every `load`).


        Stefan




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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
  2023-06-26 13:57       ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2023-06-26 14:27         ` Stefan Monnier
  2023-06-26 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-06-26 14:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2023-06-26 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel

>> They are?  AFAIU, the code only overrides the value of
>> debug-ignored-errors if Emacs was invoked with --debug-init, and
>> otherwise honors whatever value you set in your init files.  Or what
>> am I missing?
>
> There's a let-binding of `debug-ignored-errors` around the `load`, so
> the old value is restored when we finish `load` :-(
>
> That's what the `startup` value in `debug-on-error` is about (which
> I changed to `startup--witness` in my patch to try and make it more
> clear): to detect when init files changed the value and then be careful
> to preserve this new value when we exit the `let`.
>
> BTW, another difference is that you seem to have that offending code in
> 3 places whereas the setting of `debug-on-error` happens only once
> (which is why I put my code alongside that setting rather than around
> each and every `load`).

For reference, find below my initial suggestion stripped of its
gratuitous renaming.


        Stefan


diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 484c8f57a9f..7baacba0af6 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -1027,6 +1027,11 @@ startup--load-user-init-file
          (if (eq init-file-debug t)
              'startup
            init-file-debug))
+        (d-i-e-from-init-file nil)
+        (d-i-e-initial
+         ;; Use (startup--witness) instead of nil, so we can detect when the
+         ;; init files set `debug-ignored-errors' to nil.
+         (if init-file-debug '(startup--witness) debug-ignored-errors))
         ;; The init file might contain byte-code with embedded NULs,
         ;; which can cause problems when read back, so disable nul
         ;; byte detection.  (Bug#52554)
@@ -1126,10 +1131,14 @@ startup--load-user-init-file
 
       ;; If we can tell that the init file altered debug-on-error,
       ;; arrange to preserve the value that it set up.
+      (or (eq debug-ignored-errors d-i-e-initial)
+          (setq d-i-e-from-init-file (list debug-ignored-errors)))
       (or (eq debug-on-error debug-on-error-initial)
           (setq debug-on-error-should-be-set t
                 debug-on-error-from-init-file debug-on-error)))
 
+    (when d-i-e-from-init-file
+      (setq debug-ignored-errors (car d-i-e-from-init-file)))))
     (when debug-on-error-should-be-set
       (setq debug-on-error debug-on-error-from-init-file))))
 




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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
  2023-06-26 13:57       ` Stefan Monnier
  2023-06-26 14:27         ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2023-06-26 14:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-06-26 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:57:08 -0400
> 
> >> Now the changes I make to `debug-ignored-errors` in my `init.el` are
> >> thrown away :-(
> >
> > They are?  AFAIU, the code only overrides the value of
> > debug-ignored-errors if Emacs was invoked with --debug-init, and
> > otherwise honors whatever value you set in your init files.  Or what
> > am I missing?
> 
> There's a let-binding of `debug-ignored-errors` around the `load`, so
> the old value is restored when we finish `load` :-(

Feel free to fix that, but please don't rename the variables.

> BTW, another difference is that you seem to have that offending code in
> 3 places whereas the setting of `debug-on-error` happens only once

That's because you explicitly asked this to be in effect only during
loading the init files.  My original suggestion used just one
let-binding.




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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
  2023-06-26 14:27         ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2023-06-26 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2023-06-26 15:25             ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-06-26 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:27:40 -0400
> 
> For reference, find below my initial suggestion stripped of its
> gratuitous renaming.

Doesn't this need to be protected from quitting?

But anyway, feel free to install any fixes you think are necessary.



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* Re: master 4302bc9b0f1: Allow --debug-init to debug all errors in init files
  2023-06-26 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-06-26 15:25             ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2023-06-26 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel

>> For reference, find below my initial suggestion stripped of its
>> gratuitous renaming.
> Doesn't this need to be protected from quitting?

As you can see in the patch, my code just does the same that is done for
`debug-on-error`, so if we think it's not good enough for
`debug-ignored-errors` we should also fix it for `debug-on-error` but
I think that's orthogonal to the issue at hand.

Installed,


        Stefan




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