From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new *Help* argument highlighting Date: 09 May 2004 20:00:07 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040510004429.F991.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> <20040510013534.F994.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084147371 27333 80.91.224.253 (10 May 2004 00:02:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 02:02:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMyFp-0001Um-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:02:45 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMyFo-0008K9-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:02:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMyFP-0007d0-7e for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMyEo-0006yQ-E6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:01:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMyDN-00054j-06 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:00:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMyDK-00051f-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:00:11 -0400 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1935B2121D; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DB3C18C6AE; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20040510013534.F994.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> Original-Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-1.428, requis 5, BAYES_20 -1.43) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23002 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23002 >> But highlighting all args doesn't seem of much use to me. > Oh, I don't find it very useful to describe `nth'; but > `define-minor-mode' or `define-key', definitely yes. I just find it odd to highlight arguments more than, say, the function's name (i.e. basically the title of the help buffer). Maybe italics will make it less strange, but the current bold I see is just very surprising because it highlights (in the literal sense) parts of the docstring as if they were THE-THING-I-VE-BEEN-LOOKING-FOR, even when it has strictly no indication that it's what I'm interested in. >> I think the additional highlight would make more sense in a situation where >> the *Help* buffer uses a larger font for the function/variable name at the >> top (i.e. like a title), then some other font (probably courrier) for the >> usage, then yet some other (something proportional) for the body, ... > That's doable, but I think many people would find it way too > much highlighting. I didn't say fruit salad. I meant a sober presentation like you'd find in a book (e.g. generated from Texinfo). > I'm not going to push for any specific default color/highlighting on > this issue; No colors, please. Stefan