From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: not too happy with Emacs 21 vertical-line dragging when scrollbars present Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:26:12 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097083636 11079 80.91.229.6 (6 Oct 2004 17:27:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 17:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 19:26:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CFFZ4-00077M-00 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:26:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFFfl-0007if-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:33:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CFFfe-0007iN-Cc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CFFfd-0007hk-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFFfd-0007hh-6o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CFFYP-0007HI-Uf; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:26:18 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891FA8282E6; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D74AC6C8; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:26:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 886DE8CA23; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:10:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28003 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28003 > It would be much better if we could find a way to just drag the > scroll-bar. > Dragging in the scroll bar has another meaning. I could imagine distinguishing the act of dragging (vertically) the thumb in the scrollbar from the act of dragging (horizontally) the actual scrollbar. Emacs could use different mouse buttons to tell which action is desired. The problem is that Emacs doesn't see any of those events anyway since they're all handled directly by the toolkit that provides the scrollbar. Stefan