From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <002201c7ae61$5d13fc00$d10990d4@j4f3n1> <87lkemki35.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <00b701c7aea8$72403de0$4a42fe91@j4f3n1> <013001c7af43$0627f4e0$560690d4@j4f3n1> <4672B6C7.3040509@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181932559 15014 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2007 18:35:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: grischka , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sam Steingold Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 15 20:35:58 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HzGeL-0007t8-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:35:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzGeL-00018k-2O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzGeH-00018N-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzGeF-00016g-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzGeF-00016Z-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HzGeD-0005pX-Oa; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117C02CF327; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9C63FE0; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9ADEF6C8D8; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4672B6C7.3040509@gnu.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Fri\, 15 Jun 2007 11\:56\:55 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72982 Archived-At: >> I originally thought it was lack of imagination, but given that they reject >> requests to lift the restriction by arguing that "this is not supported by >> our metaphor", it's pretty clear that it's ideological. > Emacs is their major customer (arguably the most important one, > definitely one of the 10 most important ones). You clearly don't live in the same world as they do. Stefan