From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recognizing obsolete external package versions Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186894241 21657 80.91.229.12 (12 Aug 2007 04:50:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 12 06:50:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IK5PR-000558-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:50:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IK5PQ-0006h2-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IK5PM-0006gW-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IK5PK-0006gD-Oh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IK5PK-0006g5-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:30 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts13.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34] helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IK5PI-0008Vf-Kd; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.55.81.238]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070812045027.IPDQ13659.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 747718574; Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:50:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 12 Aug 2007 00\:15\:23 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76373 Archived-At: > I think it would be better to check at the beginning of loading the file > rather than at the end. Why would that matter? The user will have to fetch and install a new package, maybe tweak her .emacs, ... most likely she'll have plenty of time and reasons to restart her Emacs process at some point in-between anyway. > That is possible by searching for "(defvar VARIABLE", > evaluating the sexp that comes next, and looking at its value. That sounds like a lot of work for very little benefit: currently files are loaded by doing an `fopen' and then reading and parsing directly from there, so it's never put into a buffer where a search could take place. Stefan