From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A target that's even more bootstrap? Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:20:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <877e9jf429.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="45164"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 18 15:21:36 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdE3L-000BdT-HU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:21:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hdE3K-00045t-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hdE2V-00045X-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:20:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hdE2T-0003b7-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:20:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41484 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hdE2R-0003XP-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdE2P-000AaW-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:20:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:9zPaynKyHUskmF6DDl0qG/0B8UE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237837 Archived-At: > Perhaps it is worth considering the opposite approach. Currently, we > have > > mostlyclean > clean > distclean > maintainer-clean > extraclean > bootstrap-clean FWIW, my main problem with the above is that their name doesn't actually say what they do, so I never know which one to use. I find those names unusually obscure. > The the irregular hyphenation is a bit odd. But, in addition, I would > guess that many of these levels (maintainer-clean, extraclean and > bootstrap-clean) are really only there to save time; with parallel > builds and faster machines I wonder how many of these are > actually needed. FWIW none of my machines have gotten any faster over the last 10 years. Stefan