From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:16:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12972"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel , Thibaut Verron , Dmitry Gutov To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 20:18:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNggM-0003Ft-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:18:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37140 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNggL-0005GL-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:18:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34464) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNgew-0004lx-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:16:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:7112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNget-0007M4-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:16:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id F2F5B80B9B; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3E0A880640; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:16:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601489810; bh=o1Wrz/u390leLUlPZUEcTZBdnd1VZf0IGeWBe8e5o5E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DkDWL3PlZ62s11EAWITpTtNJl2XrK+3TogIJ/wkfNnJqUKHbO8TXG8mOxeKLz7aeh NCMrL6WUcdkiIif3LOfHf1v3zbNwK/X5Ihh4HMKqjxSGGcW7Y+fpdF3qSB8KWeVjjQ bLDilv9ZUqPu4YtBBAaGTzFQ5pgeZi2O+3GOkZTrdKjLRgH1F4dgWBgtFx7ShjKHji 13pndjnf1vLUfx57PaUfwETtlbXDEYT+rSu7vL4YUiLTn9FqwXHo31Os/BL4ZPs6sr G0KT/xA6C279O6Aq9f/7CrSDuqhHcCeogJbP5njA2TWrJJdWPkRyN156XVh9ARKVow H7Fg73/51DcvA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2E6E1205B7; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:16:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:58:34 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/30 11:51:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256786 Archived-At: > 1. C-z as a prefix --- at present c-z runs suspend-frame under X, and > suspends Emacs on the console. Then again, `C-z` is a standard binding for `undo`. ;-) > Perhaps turn C-z into a new prefix key, and bind the above commands > to C-z z -- that gives us a whole new keymap to play with for the > future. It's true that there's some logic to use C-z, C-x, and C-c for standard prefix keys. Yet, I think this can only make sense if we have a clear idea of what kinds of bindings we'd put into this prefix. > 2. F2 is currently taken up by 2c (2column support) and perhaps it's > time to recover that key, I suspect 2c is not as heavily used to > justify a common key like F2, and it would still have C-x 6 > dedicated to it if we take F2 away from it. I agree that the binding of `f2` to `2C-command` can be dropped. Not sure what to bind it to instead, OTOH. Stefan