From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:00:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86a6ugnopl.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <868s94tzwd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33484"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 21:02:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxbUP-0008bn-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 21:02:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35288 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxbUO-00039I-32 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:02:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43822) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxbSi-0001l5-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:00:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:19219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxbSd-0004OP-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:00:47 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 54DA38090B; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 15:00:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AF89A8009B; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 15:00:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1610049638; bh=W40GxMzwYbenhkVJEaWFCLPhnaR6GDrCWSYTh/lX96E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Y5duPMGFFB/msVChcL22B8GWzriPOzb8+WcRo+eDVnnnW+8+bvIFt01/TnM5jZkhW p5mBuj+WwFKUOsk9QoBHvGqoflJNxjn9trBL/T97q7sueP62P7u3zN+ehOeZdm7/nG /CVgNshsqRObJMorbcnKDzrb9A8zHjn/bl86fjo3/vpOaIDLdqgWUr/JuSVQpUKYJX 4TkJiFlqAObIojxsq4i5nLTfTOfHwyVg3AIsvMC0KmkRUyvcSe3EQWJwujp//NsgCj ZXebXZJHSkx+ubnjcvxhRyRlYBVmyNzm+JEMNb1opo5Fr7xokM6th1koL1cJJ9IjWe OlSM0AfDkQpzw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.224.181]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83E7B12041E; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 15:00:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <868s94tzwd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:33:54 -0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262705 Archived-At: > So the simplest solution for ada-mode is to move it to emacs.git, and > make it a :core package. I would still maintain a separate upstream > repository in git.savannah.nongnu.org/git/ada-mode.git, and only update > emacs.git with releases (as I do currently for elpa.git). I think this is a very suboptimal solution since synchronization between the two copies becomes painful. > This would have no effect on my current ada-mode release process, other > than the precise name of the publishing repository. It would also have > no effect on the current Emacs development process. > > One possible problem with this; ada-mode contains one huge file > ada_lr1_parse_table.txt.gz; this is a full LR1 parse table for the Ada > language; it is about 5 MB compressed in ada-mode 7.1.4, and will grow > to about 23 MB in the next release (Ada 2020 has several new features). [ IIUC this is a generated file, so it should ideally not be stored in Git, tho I understand it might be impractical, like requiring an Ada compiler to (re)generate. ] > The current emacs master .git is 804 MB, so that's not a huge increase, > but it is significant. [ FWIW, mine says 470MB. It probably depends on how recently Git ran its GC. ] Stefan