From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 695f679: Remove ; ; ; ###tramp-autoload cookie from Tramp defcustoms (Bug#47063) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:30:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20210313133546.6042.78482@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210313133547.AA06C20B2E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <877dma1yfv.fsf@tcd.ie> <87sg4ygmd9.fsf@gmx.de> <87a6r5efwm.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34642"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 14 21:31:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lLXOe-0008ub-Pi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 21:31:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40228 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLXOd-0004Wn-Rh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:31:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLXNK-0003pl-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLXNI-00066t-DJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 02237440F50; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C17A6440C60; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:30:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1615753805; bh=uznryWmA/A1v58y19sCSH1DTl7zOggH78ita+JwkJH0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WN0zcSxYTzaDjbIwA/KOX/9jP/wyT7YIjd9x+BX8IOATEojVpIIUrO64HmFHahH8e hP8lpOq0kt22eBLEeLS0ZbPs2PDvkZK6TS7LHMciIBYDiS//NWDECnisBYgsms6LX3 +/JL2P3A+Raq+0pB0yNhAPxrunCQLLl4XIjv56LHDQ5ErVXiiaxWwFhebGSk9DqtFN 5+xiWwZUXdCKO0sghPayyu1aQgSvrJw2BgBe4dg+lFq3pZE5llibtBHfQig8f2Mqpu nHNrG3ObVUw42D1gN3x9+ZulJfkJWz/KorZRaUSHZpwfZjnMJFcBX1+7Ju3fhObMV6 hsmx2HrC2DXCA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.43.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A8691204DE; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:30:05 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87a6r5efwm.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 14 Mar 2021 19:42:01 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266464 Archived-At: > Of course, we can live w/o that predicate. We did until now. But OTOH, > it doesn't hurt to check this, that's why this kind of check has been > added to Emacs. What I mean is that this is a predicate which should be most useful to those who never use `tramp-crypt` (e.g. because `encfs` is not installed), so only activating it when `tramp-crypt` is loaded makes it *much* less useful. This predicate is only useful for those users who don't have `encfs` installed. Which proportion of those users do you think has `tramp-crypt` loaded in their Emacs session? My guess is that this is pretty close to 0%. Stefan