From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 'M-o' ('facemap-keymap') has now been removed until March 10th 2021 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:47:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <32A55BBD-1A3F-4EC4-817F-7C3408C22A65@bydasein.com> <22aaf0faddac64397c7d@heytings.org> <4B2A00EB-8C04-4B9D-BA86-692D67207AFD@bydasein.com> <22aaf0faddc2bf87fd3a@heytings.org> <0009872A-AD9D-4B08-B714-BFEDDAAF9125@bydasein.com> <8786a8e8faf45a989904@heytings.org> <8786a8e8faa6f278b198@heytings.org> <340C1C00-D6DE-46AF-99ED-ED349E8F8D4F@bydasein.com> <035AB19F-E25F-42A2-9961-D18CC2F281F3@bydasein.com> <4692CAF6-FFA8-460E-9596-D57E4E509F85@bydasein.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27470"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gregory Heytings , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Paul W. Rankin" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 24 22:48:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lPBMt-00074f-HY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:48:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44054 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lPBMs-0002wd-Ci for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lPBMC-0002Ml-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lPBMA-0004yq-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BFBBB4412F1; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 426B54412E5; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:47:59 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1616622479; bh=kAvpU8ff5qfdQVFN2JNTggt8nKmkGgmhOK/iPdEohPE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=am4uOUZTZyf4y2IgsdvkF91E1yHDY7CoKc70MJwwidkk/WJugrPV3m05RrvtJfEoi 2ygh+IGxgpG1A4yd85sE1fZOttVLOS2PTgUtEp0CrG6Ftwu07gJG16Z8nMqRthf/sr TwH++h1KdyJ+mqQ8669kCw9nhvOKlVaYLWjRFz0tBMjG9cLNqra/dxemh38jEE4oHs n9nsuG5ppEZHlxl1psHFA33QtseMN5MI+L3WDpVOdPCHqDIIW+PFRp+guvpWNOROOF /XWcGix443p/E77F3M7kUUZ9CjKDqlBKrVb3XzGR0zBSOncf1ipjclZNHlD56P7XiE pCsoptkpkgckA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.43.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E1B2120225; Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:47:58 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4692CAF6-FFA8-460E-9596-D57E4E509F85@bydasein.com> (Paul W. Rankin's message of "Thu, 25 Mar 2021 01:53:58 +1000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266986 Archived-At: >>> I'm responding to a very narrow issue Gregory raised, which was that yanking >>> a defun from an emacs-lisp-mode into a text-mode-buffer, then deactivating >>> font-lock-mode did not remove what he considers to be fontification. To me, >>> this makes sense because text-mode does not fontify most text, thus any text >> Yes, but the question is not whether it makes sense but whether it's desirable. >> If it's not desirable than it doesn't matter whether we provide/preserve >> this behavior. > I see. Yes I think it's desirable. Could you explain why you think it's desirable, e.g. with concrete use cases? > For me the desirable aspect is the distinction between text props and > font-lock. I don't know what you mean by that. Stefan