From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:03:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y29cj65y.fsf@posteo.net> <87tujgv7y1.fsf@gmail.com> <87h7fd93pu.fsf@posteo.net> <87a6l57ew7.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9676"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 20:15:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJJuD-0002FF-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:15:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39398 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJJuB-0005SV-AQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57440) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJJit-0002YM-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:9989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJJiq-0005m7-21 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 330F4440FC9; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D7D01440FA7; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:03:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1630001004; bh=RBkoN/HDwwmYYvBCLCWYaMXm6pDaegfbYBsvB2FbjFk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=W13DPvxjHolrgMJbcU07mUbQLEx5oO+136oojx2pJBCwnMGPW79s77dYa6ROBhvqn mAbXaK/39Z758o3dGTWoKYRwew/MAnOK+IYtZ/RdQ2bBzOJMjmzr0FgyCcSUVPHzAl vFOkRu9h2mxRfeJ1zGBRfZOd1AAsvcFq+aq7Gl6dNDkBosmdekC3k013qiUYj3p3rT VxkXxN5QZU+Rav3GPJcN9Xg11mHMwU2yI1Zot+X3JFUp6Dl/jFtyjkIRwd/CPWslC7 kp52CQ7JHvlZckX3a17bSJmf2N3XM/SZ+coIegW99HdFJNeEYfZwuHYM0owLaYhhbZ eYVkfw0I7SFqg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.244.135]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8C1A1202EE; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:03:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:38:37 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273057 Archived-At: > Any thoughts of enabling non gnu elpa, and package.el to deal with packages in a > similar fashon as AUR and I guess similar solutions from other distros. What I > think of is that people could submit just build recipes into gnu elpa, without > tar-ed sources. Just the URLs or sources and the way to fetch/build and install > a package. Isn't it what el-get already does? I think you're describing what we're already doing with NonGNU ELPA. But there are enough weird assumptions above that I'm not completely sure. E.g. you talk about "tar-ed sources", but none of GNU ELPA nor NonGNU ELPA have worked from "tar-ed sources", except maybe for the very first few months of GNU ELPA. > I guess anyone can clone "nelpa" and add someone elses package, but I am not sure > how polite that would be considered. Maybe I am wrong, maybe it is just me, but > I have a feeling that it is a custom practice for elpa/nelpa/melpa that authors > themselves sumbit packages. Philip Kaludercic and I both added various packages for which we're not the author/maintainer. This is fine. The maintainers need to be involved, tho, for all kinds of reasons, including to avoid that they break the package's spec. Stefan